Torchlight II

Torchlight II

Far East Pack 1 (v.393)
Rostig 27 Nov, 2013 @ 2:54pm
Ronin: Battle Ready
• Ronin: Battle Ready: This now gives –martial item requirements again.

Ouch.

I can't wear my armor anymore, hmm.

As this put a rather screaming halt to the ronin I was mucking about with, with my daughter on my days off. I would like to ask if this change is to be temporary or if you are searching for something to replace the strength bonus?

If nothing else, adapt and over come.
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W@KK0 28 Nov, 2013 @ 11:41pm 
Yeah, please revert back to the strength bonus. I was building my character specifically with that bonus in mind. That's pretty screwed up to mess with this after I've been running this character for a few weeks (granted don't have a lot of play time, but still).

Very annoyed and pissed off that you've changed this. I would rather have the strength! I had just put 15 points into that, and then today on a level up all of a sudden I dropped half my gear because I no longer had the strength required.

Really have been enjoying this mod, but now I don't want to play the damn game any more.
Minesweeper  [developer] 29 Nov, 2013 @ 3:13am 
Okay, I guess it wouldn't hurt if I speak on behalf of Zyph, the creator of the Ronin. Long time ago, many passives from various FE classes give stat bonuses but they created crashes.

Various tests were done and apparently, there seems to be some sort of limit to how much stat points you can get at a certain level. So, Zyph decided to replace them with something that somehow gives the bonuses that the specific stat offers (e.g. -martial item requirements for Strength, +critical chance for Dexterity, +health for Vitality, etc.).

As much as Zyph doesn't want to do it, there's nothing he can do but to proceed with it as players are reporting crashes here and there and we apologize for whatever inconvenience it caused.
Spxder_bxtch  [developer] 29 Nov, 2013 @ 6:14am 
Minesweeper pretty much hit the nail on the head guys. :( What was happening was that as you spent in that stat you would then try to add a stat point and the game would crash. It was on all of the FE characters.

Now, what I can do is up the -item requirement I stuck in the skill to cover it, but it could get a bit crazy because as far as I know there is no way to target a specific stat. So, you would end up with -75 to item requirements, and that would be really broken.

I assure I fought this change tooth and nail for months, but in the end there was no other alternative that could be found to fix what came to be known as the "Stat Crash Bug."

However as I said, I will up the -item requirement I skill to compensate a bit more. I really am sorry guys, I did look for another way to fix this. :(
Last edited by Spxder_bxtch; 29 Nov, 2013 @ 6:20am
Rostig 29 Nov, 2013 @ 5:29pm 
Life is real, thank you for taking the time to explain. I will simply adapt and overcome.. the game is fun regardless of that minor speed bump in that class.
W@KK0 29 Nov, 2013 @ 8:55pm 
I appreciate all you are doing in making this and developing this. I just can't express my frustration well enouigh nor in a positive manner. I'm done playing TL2 for a while until I can get over this change. As I read what you just wrote, you're gonna nerf the +stat bonuses to the other character classes I'd been messing around with as well. Which means they will all lose their builds, weapons, and armor. I know you're stuck in a hard spot. I'm just frustrated at how much time I've now lost playing as I had.
Spxder_bxtch  [developer] 30 Nov, 2013 @ 1:42am 
@W@KK0, I thought it was going to ruin the game for me too, but I don't even notice it. With the GM and the Kensei it was replaced with some really cool stuff. I just have not gotten to the Ronin yet to do the same.

The GM has one Proc that gives an HP&Mana heal every 25 hits based on level, and a proc that decreases enemy armor every 20 hits (which takes less attcks with more investment.)

The Ronin's will be getting battle auras that share with the team, and procs that do cool stuff also.

As I said in the main thread, I am going to replace it with something that I feel is even cooler. That was the requirement for myself to be willing to make that change.
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