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The Great Trait Update (Character Trait Overhaul)
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Cryswar  [developer] 25 Jun, 2019 @ 7:00pm
Feedback and Suggestions
If you think one of the revamped traits should be buffed, nerfed, altered, or reworked, feel free to suggest it here! Including reasoning would be helpful; 'Alith Anar sux' or 'Alith Anar OP' isn't super helpful, but 'I don't think he should have all three of damage/range, ammo, 2 would be more appropriate, and he's still be better than a Punitive lord because X'.

Current (hopefully...) updated list of trait changes: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1mWfuApY90BjkuTtglX2LPQdfIsL6Oe0-USmCQekG4aw/edit?usp=sharing
Last edited by Cryswar; 26 Jun, 2019 @ 4:54pm
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Svensk 26 Jun, 2019 @ 2:25pm 
Could you post a Google docs or something of all the changed traits? It helps mulling over everything in a birds eye view to catch the underpowered vs overpowered ones
#1
Cryswar  [developer] 26 Jun, 2019 @ 3:56pm 
Sure, I can look into that as a project! I've been kinda meaning to just haven't gotten around to it yet haha.
#2
Cryswar  [developer] 26 Jun, 2019 @ 4:54pm 
Done. Except for High Elves but screw that giant list right now.
#3
BungusFlungus 26 Aug, 2019 @ 2:33pm 
Can you do a mixu's lord pack submod
#4
Cryswar  [developer] 26 Aug, 2019 @ 2:40pm 
What do you mean? Like changing his lord's traits?
#5
Cryswar  [developer] 3 Aug, 2020 @ 10:30am 
It's at the top of this topic.
#6
ScrubLord 6 Dec, 2020 @ 10:41pm 
Should 'Sharp Claws' Skaven ability be similar to the Generic Trait 'Aggressive, but worse (-10CB)?

And thanks for the Google Doc.
#7
Cryswar  [developer] 6 Dec, 2020 @ 11:09pm 
Probably not. I'll look into it.
#8
Zzz 22 Jan, 2021 @ 8:44pm 
@Cryswar
It doesn't appear that the legendary lord traits are working. I started a campaign as Mannfred (10% damage, 10 armor to Grave Guard) and as Vlad (-50% upkeep to blood knights, 10AP to blood knights), neither had their traits. The other traits are working though, so I'm not sure what is missing.
#9
Cryswar  [developer] 22 Jan, 2021 @ 9:29pm 
Legendary lord trait boosts were removed from this mod at player request a while back, currently it only boosts generic lord background skills. Use Leaders of Legend if you also want upgraded legendary lord effects, it's the main mod!
#10
Zzz 4 Feb, 2021 @ 6:04pm 
@Cryswar
Hey I think I found a bug with this, so I noticed that the generic "Intelligent" trait has some overlap with the Norscan "Intelligent" trait. The -3 leadership aura penalty which is meant for the Norscan "Intelligent" trait also applies to the generic "Intelligent" trait. Digging through the files, it seems like they are meant to be separate.
#11
Deviant 27 Mar, 2021 @ 11:24pm 
"Confident" - OP. Nerf pls...
#12
Cryswar  [developer] 28 Mar, 2021 @ 11:11am 
?
#13
Deschain 26 Jun, 2021 @ 6:16pm 
Lore Keeper for the Vampires is waaay too OP. With 3 Lore Keepers necromancers(wich is not hard to get btw) I get 90% reduction in building cost and 60% bonus income.
#14
Cryswar  [developer] 26 Jun, 2021 @ 8:39pm 
I don't touch this mod anymore admittedly. Leaders of Legend has a more balanced version of them, or if you prefer this one it's fairly easy to edit to whatever values you desire using RPFM.
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