So it seems like it just doesnt change from being considered "Tall/Ugly" even if I change the slider? is that a bug or is it supposed to only be based off the original roll or something?

It's the original roll, you change the slider based on that :). I wish i could make it other way around.

If I add or remove traits via *koff* cheat, they keep changing back to the original roll - is that intentional or can it be changed somehow? Also if I add Beautiful it comes up as a temporary trait but if it comes up in the original roll it's enduring?

mmm weird, you can try to add the line:

"lifespan": "all",

to the aspects inside the mod like this:

{
"modId": "Smokers_Expanded_Humans",
"id": "beautiful",
"stats": { "CHARISMA": 10, "TENACITY": -10 },
"lifespan": "all"
},

but that behavior may be hardcoded as the traits are in humanBase when the character is created :(

The weird thing is, beautiful seems to be the only one that turns up that way. So yeah I'll try that, thanks!

I'm assuming this also means the traits persistently coming back no matter what I do is unavoidable too?

Im afraid yes, for what your telling me that behavior is weird and probably related to the way traits are implemented in humanBase, no dif between beatiful and others so (only the stats they give) i dont know. If you are lucky "lifespan" will fix it.

Thanks for the great mod,

But i cant seem to remove or add traits, i noticed i could remove ugly or thin from the "humans" file
but after i did it didnt show any traits at all in the game as if the whole mod was removed.. so i did verify intergrity files with steam, and it undid all the changes i did in the files (i guess it reinstalled all orignal files"

Afterwards i noticed that "humanbase" file had text with "ugly" or "thin"at some of the humanebases, so i tried to remove those. and i guess that it did work for removing the traits,
but i still cant add traits every time i do add a trait it disables/removes the mod in the game,

Any clue what i need to change to add a trait?