Stellaris
United Federation
Kronos1612  [개발자] 2020년 3월 18일 오후 9시 20분
Feedback and Suggestions
Please post here your honest and constructive (!) feedback.
As a mod creator, you are my only input on a massive 'beta-test' xD
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kerrigan1603 2020년 3월 22일 오전 8시 56분 
Have you thought about making mods that remove the authoritarian and militarist requirements for hegemony or martial alliance-type federations?
Kronos1612  [개발자] 2020년 3월 22일 오전 10시 22분 
kerrigan1603 님이 먼저 게시:
Have you thought about making mods that remove the authoritarian and militarist requirements for hegemony or martial alliance-type federations?
Hm... not really, no. Do you want one? :3
kerrigan1603 2020년 3월 22일 오후 3시 55분 
Kronos1612 님이 먼저 게시:
kerrigan1603 님이 먼저 게시:
Have you thought about making mods that remove the authoritarian and militarist requirements for hegemony or martial alliance-type federations?
Hm... not really, no. Do you want one? :3

Yes please, pretty please!
kgptzac 2020년 3월 26일 오후 1시 28분 
Since this federation type is pretty much an "upgrade" of Galactic Union and requires high centralization, a few things that strike me as odd that several laws that are already "President Only" reverted back to having to consulting members.

For example, Vote Weight should default be Diplomatic. War Declaration, Invite Members, Kick Members should be minimally Majority Vote with the possibility later on to change to President Decides. Subjects should be forced to join the federation at lv3 (where it's effectively a hegemony now)
Kronos1612  [개발자] 2020년 3월 27일 오전 12시 02분 
kgptzac 님이 먼저 게시:
Since this federation type is pretty much an "upgrade" of Galactic Union and requires high centralization, a few things that strike me as odd that several laws that are already "President Only" reverted back to having to consulting members.

For example, Vote Weight should default be Diplomatic. War Declaration, Invite Members, Kick Members should be minimally Majority Vote with the possibility later on to change to President Decides. Subjects should be forced to join the federation at lv3 (where it's effectively a hegemony now)
Hello, thank you for your feedback. Well, if you set the vote weight to diplomatic weight, after the president is president permanently (adds 100% of the diplomatic weight to his own), and you have a minimum voting type of majority vote, then the president is ALWAYS the one with the absolute majority. So that is why, the vote weight is set to 'equal' (to give the members a chance (in multiplayer, for example) to overthrow the government. Doesen't matter at renovatio foerderationis, though)

Story-wise, think of this like this:
You have a very centralized federation, but now you want a federation highly centralized on the president. This displeases the Federation members and agree only to the federation, if they are granted some rights (Otherwise, you can just demand vassalization from every member). That is, why the vote types are resetted.

But regarding the Subjects: I will look into this ;)
kgptzac 2020년 3월 27일 오전 12시 34분 
Without modding it takes a long time to grow a galactic union to lv5, then invest into an ascension perk. I kinda expect the upgrade to this federation type to be a linear upgrade, and I'm not sure I can agree on your rationale on why the centralization of the federation has to drop down a notch before the federation (under this type) needs to be leveled up all over again, which during this time although I'm very unlikely to be rotated out of presidency, my power regarding federation membership and wardecs are simply said, no longer mine.

TL;DR: I already had a galactic union that's extremely centralized around me, "upgrading" it to a united federation suddenly strips me from power is an odd thing to happen.
Kronos1612  [개발자] 2020년 3월 27일 오전 4시 27분 
that's a fair point. i will look into this, but you should expect, that the ai behavior will be changed too
fgf1011 2020년 5월 13일 오전 12시 18분 
Hello, I have some idea recently about how to make a federation work more like a country instead of a separate union. I think a federal government and a series reform is a good idea. The main idea is gradually moving the Federal states to a Unitary State. So, I set up a fundamental structure of federal government reform.

Before those reform, I make up some systems that might be interesting: Member State Supporting System, Anger System, and Federal Parliament System.

Member State Supporting System
Member State Supporting System is a system that the member state will ask for help to the president. Some request is randomly and the frequency depend on the storage and year income, while some others are mandatory: when a member state has income that lower than certain number, the member state will ask president for help (always in monthly income). Those mandatory request is limited by federal reforms. A few requests are totally random. Those requests can be: ask monthly income (energy, minerals, food), one time pay, or some rare resources.

Anger System
Anger System as its name, some member state might feel anger and get “anger points” for reforms or president refuse to helping them. The “anger points” will decrease relationship with president and more likely to refuse further reform. Those anger points can be removed by time, cash(energy), finished their request, federal edits, or some other events. When a member state has enough anger, it will require leave the federation. If the president refuse, a civil war will break out. I believe you already have a similar system but I don’t know how to read those codes.

Civil War:
When a civil war breaks out, member states who have certain points also will declare war to the president. President will gain Impose Ideology CB or Vassalize CB depend on centralization. The rebel state will declare war by using Secession CB. So, it makes possibility to make a federation collapse. I feel the vanilla federations are too united.

Federal Parliament
Very similar to British Parliament system in EU4. The parliament provides some edit cost president’s energy and influence that apply to entire federation. Those bill (edit) might be fail and some member state might add “anger points” due to their disagreement. For those who vote agree, some “anger points” might be removed.

Finally, the federal to Unitary reforms.
I make up the fundamental structure below. The goal of this system is making the federation slowly work as a country with some provinces. However, I am not good at balancing or coding. Feel free to change or remove.
Due to I wrote it in a table, please click the google document below for full info

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1k2apI9R8MT5-PKwSVJcqIX0P9L2vWFqM3wogjyGEeIQ/edit?usp=sharing

I know I list tons of plans. Feel free to do any of them, please. I like to help with description and Chinese localization. However, I don’t know how to code. I am happy if you could do some of modification. English is NOT my first language. Forgive me about any wrong spelling and grammar mistakes.

Thank you for making this mod.

Kronos1612  [개발자] 2020년 5월 13일 오전 12시 27분 
Dude, nicely done! And don't worry, English is not my first language either(i'm german xD) By the way, unrelated question: do you have any modding experience in Stellaris (if not, it is okay, it is relatively easy) otherwise, you can help me with that mod :D
Edit: I mean... all of the suggestions from you are very great! But it requires time and manpower.
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fgf1011 2020년 5월 13일 오전 12시 51분 
I am afraid I do not have enough time to do this and I do not have any any modding experience in Stellaris.
Kronos1612  [개발자] 2020년 5월 13일 오전 12시 52분 
Okay, but that concept is really really good. If it is just me, it would take too long, though. Let's assemble a team Time to recruit some modders, i guess.
fgf1011 2020년 5월 13일 오전 1시 01분 
Kronos1612 님이 먼저 게시:
Okay, but that concept is really really good. If it is just me, it would take too long, though. Let's assemble a team Time to recruit some modders, i guess.
That's a good idea. However, it seems like recent update (2.7.1) of Stellaris changed a lot of code. Are you ok with those changes?
Kronos1612  [개발자] 2020년 5월 13일 오전 1시 02분 
On the paper, the mods should not be affected, despite the update, but i will look into my mods (Assimilated Planets and United Federations)
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