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[DEPRECATED, USE VCO2 INSTEAD] Victory Conditions Overhaul
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Wolfy  [developer] 30 Jun, 2020 @ 7:42am
High Elves Victory Conditions [Post v1.7.0 Discussion]
Current Conditions
## High Elves ### Lothern * **Short Victory Conditions**: * Conquer, ally with or assimilate all provinces of Ulthuan * Destroy factions: * Cult of Pleasure, Naggarond * Construct the Sacred Flame of Asuryan and the Gates of Lothern * **Long Victory Conditions**: * Conquer, ally with or assimilate all provinces of Ulthuan * Destroy factions: * Cult of Pleasure, Her Haneth, Naggarond, The Blessed Dread * Construct the Sacred Flame of Asuryan and the Gates of Lothern * Defeat Archaon ### Order of Loremasters * **Short Victory Conditions**: * Hold 12 settlements * Control the Saphery province * Construct the White Tower of Hoeth * Construct a Tower of Mages * Destroy factions: * The Blessed Dread, Vampire Coast, Clan Pestilens * **Long Victory Conditions**: * Hold 20 settlements * Control the Saphery province * Construct the White Tower of Hoeth * Construct 3 Tower of Mages * Destroy factions: * Followers of Nagash, Noctilus, Vampire Coast, The Blessed Dread, Clan Pestilens * Defeat Archaon ### Nagarythe * **Short Victory Conditions**: * Conquer two of the following provinces * Nagarythe, Iron Mountains, Titan Peaks, The Road of Skulls, Doom Glades * Destroy factions * Bleak Holds, Naggarond, Clar Karond * Construct the Black Citadel of Anlec * Own 2 Moon Dragons * **Long Victory Conditions**: * Conquer four of the following provinces * Nagarythe, Iron Mountains, Titan Peaks, The Road of Skulls, Doom Glades * Destroy factions * Bleak Holds, Cult of Pleasure, Clar Karond, Naggarond, Har Ganeth * Construct the Black Citadel of Anlec * Own 3 Moon Dragons ### Avelorn * **Short Victory Conditions**: * Conquer, ally with or assimilate all provinces of Ulthuan * Destroy factions: * Har Ganeth, Scourge of Khaine * Construct the Avelorn Landmark * **Long Victory Conditions**: * Conquer, ally with or assimilate all provinces of Ulthuan * Destroy factions: * Har Ganeth, Scourge of Khaine, Norsca, Winterthoot * Construct the Avelorn Landmark * Defeat Archaon ### Knights of Caledor * **Short Victory Conditions**: * Complete 3 Missions * Control provinces: * Western Badlands, Gnoblar Country, Dragon Isles, The Wolf Lands, Caledor * Destroy factions * Clan Eshin, Greenskins, Hag Graef * Construct 3 of the following buildings: * Tower of Mages, Sanctuary of Asuryan, Dragon Keep, Ithilmar Smith, Handmaidens, Warded Walls, Amphitheatre, Seaport * Own at least 5 of the following units: * Sun Dragon, Silverpelts (RoR), Phoenix Guard, Dragon Princes, Star Dragon, Fireborn (RoR), Keepers of the flame (RoR), Sisters of Avelorn, Court Guards (RoR), White Lions of Chrace * **Long Victory Conditions**: * Complete 5 Missions * Conquer, ally with or assimilate all provinces of Ulthuan * Control provinces: * Western Badlands, Gnoblar Country, Dragon Isles, The Wolf Lands, Caledor * Destroy factions * Clan Eshin, Greenskins, Hag Graef, Clan Mors * Construct 8 of the following buildings: * Tower of Mages, Sanctuary of Asuryan, Dragon Keep, Ithilmar Smith, Handmaidens, Warded Walls, Amphitheatre, Seaport * Own at least 15 of the following units: * Sun Dragon, Silverpelts (RoR), Phoenix Guard, Dragon Princes, Star Dragon, Fireborn (RoR), Keepers of the flame (RoR), Sisters of Avelorn, Court Guards (RoR), White Lions of Chrace ### Yvresse * **Short Victory Conditions**: * Complete 3 Missions * Control provinces * Yvresse, Cothique, Chrace, Southern Badlands, Western Badlands * Destroy faction * Broken Axe * Have at least 100 Yvresse's defence level * Construct the Warden's Tower * Own 3 of the following units * Faithbearers, Griffon Knights, Sentinels, Skyhawks, Spireguard * **Long Victory Conditions**: * Complete 5 Missions * Conquer, ally with or assimilate all provinces of Ulthuan * Control provinces * Southern Badlands, Western Badlands * Destroy factions * Broken Axe, Naggarond, Greenskins,The Bloody Handz * Have at least 100 Yvresse's defence level * Construct the Warden's Tower * Own 5 of the following units * Faithbearers, Griffon Knights, Sentinels, Skyhawks, Spireguard
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cybvep 1 Jul, 2020 @ 5:02am 
Imrik's control Western Badlands objective seems super random, I think that it should be removed.

The rest looks pretty good :).
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Wolfy  [developer] 1 Jul, 2020 @ 7:30am 
I just have abandoned the Ethaine campaign. Too long and grindy for me. Destroying Naggarond for the Short Victory is ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ grindy, I already have all the LV conditions done but Naggarond is just too big and too slow. And they have 22 settlements left.

I am thinking about updating all the Short Victory conditions to replace destroying main factions by defeating their main lord or conquering their capital. It is just not fun if they start to confederate as they always do.
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Haedra 1 Jul, 2020 @ 8:01am 
the only problem I had in my Tyrion campaign was that when Naggarond fiinally had like 1 Settlement left they confederated Malus on the other side of the map.. so I had to skip like 25 turns to get there with my armies ^^ but I don´t think you can do anything about that
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Wolfy  [developer] 1 Jul, 2020 @ 8:22am 
Originally posted by Valravn:
the only problem I had in my Tyrion campaign was that when Naggarond fiinally had like 1 Settlement left they confederated Malus on the other side of the map.. so I had to skip like 25 turns to get there with my armies ^^ but I don´t think you can do anything about that
Read my comment above. How would you feel about that?
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cybvep 1 Jul, 2020 @ 8:45am 
Hey, man, I feel you. I was the one who voiced concerns about having to destroy BOTH Morathi and Malekith and proposed control Naggarond objective, remember? ;)

It all heavily depends on faction location and type. DE tend to be big and strong, so when you don't start near them, by the time you get to them, you will often face a blob.

BTW I heavily recommend checking out No Confederation and No AI Confederation mods. Depending on which faction you are playing, one if these can greatly improve the game and reduce the grind. I'm not a fan of confederations in most cases, because they make the game more boring and less flavourful. All these unique features of many factions are lost, there are fewer trade partners and less diplomatic options. When you confederate other LLs, you also end up with armies led by LLs most of the time, so you don't have opportunites to use various generic lord types (and there are many of them). I hope that in WH3 they improve vassals instead.

Last edited by cybvep; 1 Jul, 2020 @ 8:45am
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Wolfy  [developer] 1 Jul, 2020 @ 8:50am 
Originally posted by cybvep:
Hey, man, I feel you. I was the one who voiced concerns about having to destroy BOTH Morathi and Malekith and proposed control Naggarond objective, remember? ;)

Sorry dude, I have a lot of duties open and it is easy for me to forgot what I read.

Originally posted by cybvep:
BTW I heavily recommend checking out No Confederation and No AI Confederation mods. Depending on which faction you are playing, one if these can greatly improve the game and reduce the grind. I'm not a fan of confederations in most cases, because they make the game more boring and less flavourful. All these unique features of many factions are lost, there are fewer trade partners and less diplomatic options. When you confederate other LLs, you also end up with armies led by LLs most of the time, so you don't have opportunites to use various generic lord types (and there are many of them). I hope that in WH3 they improve vassals instead.

Will try. I always have hated that confederations always result in the same factions in the map, which is just boring in my opinion. If Naggarond has 1 Settlement / 65 Power Level and Cult of Pleasure has 10 Settlements / 12 Power Level, a confederation should result in the Cult of Pleasure being a bigger faction. I do not care about the "loreful leader".
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cybvep 1 Jul, 2020 @ 8:56am 
Control Naggarond and wound Malekith (Archaon-style) for SV Lothern wouldn't be a bad option IMO.
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