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Useful liege/vassal alliances
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Cryyc 20 Sep, 2020 @ 1:46pm
Feudal Contract Alliance Suggestion
You know what would be really cool?
If there was an option for an alliance in feudal contracts.
This way you could ally your vassals without having to have marriage ties.
Option for that could be put where council rights, title revocation etc. are. Something simply called "Alliance" which will make the title your permanent vassal unless your vassal uses a hook on you to remove it from his feudal contract to you or you lose the vassal by means of war or so.
This should make waging war a bit more interesting and challenging in some cases. I imagine that you won't be able to simply roll over a kingdom, occupy a couple of provinces and win while his vassals just stand idle by and watch you.
This way you might want to check the vassals of your war target first and see if you can actually take him on. This also should make developing your vassal's provinces/holdings a bit more interesting in order to increase their military strength so that they'll actually have an army for your wars.
But an alliance option shouldn't be available to tribe government imo. I think it's more fitting for them to have alliances only by marriage ties.

Just an idea :)
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Ascended Zealot™ 20 Sep, 2020 @ 11:18pm 
Not a bad idea actually
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Cryyc 21 Sep, 2020 @ 1:43am 
I would like to add that an alliance option should also include some form of penalty to you or your realm. Alliance costing prestige comes to my mind since calling an ally to war costs prestige and let's be real, if you need help from 10 vassals to win a war then you're not a very prestigious ruler.
Or perhaps have some tax penalty like decrease a vassals' tax to you by 15% if you're gonna make him your ally. I mean your vassal will need some money for his army that is supposed to fight for you, so it's just fair I would say.
Or maybe both penalties. Prestige penalty like -2.5% prestige per alliance and -15% tax to you.
So if someone wants to ally all their vassals then there is a little bit of a hit on prestige and taxes and maybe you can't afford to ally your vassals right now, maybe you need to build up your own economy first or w/e.
I think all of this would be interesting gameplay.

Just an idea :)
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