mod conflict, something forcing recaching, maybe the VE disable caching option

I have the same issue. I disabled VE's caching option and it's still doing it, so I went through my modlist to see what other mods might be causing it.

My modlist: https://rentry.co/ck9yh

I suspected [KV] Show Hair With Hats (which is listed as required for Ratkin and Rabbie race mods, but they seem to work fine without it), so I took that mod out and it's still doing it.

I've also tried removing:

HD Pawn Rendering
Outfit Builder
Awesome Inventory 1.3 Forked

And the issue still persists.

What other mods might be causing this conflict? I don't mind doing some testing on my end to narrow down some potential incompatibilities.

i dont know the problem is everything got screwed up by the 1.3 changes so basically if it doesn't work it doesn't work and just disable that feature, at this point its not reasonable to expect every mod to work with every other mod really

NewRatkinPlus conflict, Pawn's equipment keeps disappearing and reappearing after installing NewRatkinPlus

Mind if I ask what the mod VE is you are referring to? Currently having this issue, driving me insane as it was working 80% of the time as intended and quickly fixing itself the every once in a while a pawn would not display as set up

Now, after messing with a few mods, any of the settings I try to set last only for a split second before rendering everything, ala Vanilla

Still working on it, trying to find out what might have caused the issue :P By chance, would you be able to note some of the mods you are aware of that cache or cause this particular issue?

Funny enough, I've gone to a previous colony/run, very different mod setup, and it works perfectly as intended without any issues or glitches xD Truly maddening

I'll be damned.... CE is the culprit here, and in a very particular way. Finally stopped trying to alter the mod list, as I thought it might be something I've added to the map itself that is causing the issue

Reloaded my oldest save with the same mod list, no issues at all, working perfectly as intended at all times

Most current save, going through the daily activities, and I notice that as long as they are outside, it appears that their gear is showing just as the mod is set to. Once they come INSIDE however, the very moment, then the head gear and everything comes right back on

Only now, I notice that any room that has black smoke in it, it appears to cause the pawns to react in this way, and immediately gear up everything that is hidden

I'm not sure if this is an intended feature of the mod, or if its just an unintended interaction with CE black smoke

Just wanted to post it here, in case anyone has the same issue, and might be under similar circumstances

Anyone found the culprit mod causing this issue? I don't use CE and yet I'm still getting this bug

Originally posted by Dubwise:

mod conflict, something forcing recaching, maybe the VE disable caching option

Have this issue, but without this mod and with bad hygiene. When pawn go bath, all apparel appearing and disappearing, but i don't know why. When i remove heddifs from pawn in bath using god mode, apparel reappears.

they aren't meant to be wearing anything in the bath or shower

Confirmed that the VE disable caching option is the culprit. Mod works the way it's supposed to now.

Edit - Still getting the issue. VE disable caching option sometimes works, sometimes doesn't. If anyone ever figures out a definite cause, please report it.

Edit #2 - Putting Dub's Apparel Tweaks at the very top of my modlist/load order seemed to help with some of the issues, but I can't change the mod settings as I'm worried doing so will cause the bug to happen again.

for me turning off the hide hats while sleeping and setting the hide apparel indoors and selecting headgear is good enough for me.Headgear does return when drafted indoors this way so i consider this the best we can get with the usual 200+ mods people use.

I've identified a mod that causes this behavior, Rimbrellas. Even with what I would expect to be the relevant "hide/show under x circumstances" settings all disabled, equipment still flickers as long as a pawn has an umbrella equipped.