Well I was more talking about how there are certain easily exploitable things in the vanilla game that are also present in PE, but fixed in Reforged.

For a new player I still recommend vanilla especially since they just redid the starting experience. Though you can definitely start on PE but you'll get the old missions instead.

Originally posted by ravien_ff:

Well I was more talking about how there are certain easily exploitable things in the vanilla game that are also present in PE, but fixed in Reforged.

For a new player I still recommend vanilla especially since they just redid the starting experience. Though you can definitely start on PE but you'll get the old missions instead.

Gotcha. How much/how far should a scrub such as myself play vanilla before you'd say that they know enough to comfortably start PE? I understand that might be a tough thing to quantify, but any opinion/ballpark is welcome just to give me a vague sense if nothing else.

Originally posted by Novantico:

Originally posted by ravien_ff:

Well I was more talking about how there are certain easily exploitable things in the vanilla game that are also present in PE, but fixed in Reforged.

For a new player I still recommend vanilla especially since they just redid the starting experience. Though you can definitely start on PE but you'll get the old missions instead.

Gotcha. How much/how far should a scrub such as myself play vanilla before you'd say that they know enough to comfortably start PE? I understand that might be a tough thing to quantify, but any opinion/ballpark is welcome just to give me a vague sense if nothing else.

Nobody can really answer that for you, as some people are happy to play vanilla for thousands of hours while others can get bored after a few hours, and everything in between. :D

But I say for a good start, play through at least all the tutorial missions and all the main story chapter 1 to chapter 12, get yourself a capital vessel and explore the galaxy a little.
But really, just keep playing until you find yourself wanting to try something new!

I'll chime in and mention that I have thousands of hours of play time in vanilla and PE and I'm not even sure how to give you an easy answer on that. I'd say my general experience with Empyrion over the past 6+ years has been something like this: Build stuff and then find out there is a ton more stuff to build. Explore things only to find out that I really am a speck of dust in this universe. Hit my head against the wall trying to figure out how to do the simplest of things like placing large volume objects that you can't technically carry - onto your bases or capitol ships. Get blown out of space and loose everything because you were not paying attention or due to server lag or whatever else. Find some amazing planets that you'll probably never see in other scenarios. Unravel mysteries and face challenges that are bigger than you thought.
So, yeah...you could play vanilla for a hundred hours or so, maybe run out of things to do...or be completely amazed with vanilla for several hundred hours. Or, you could start playing PE and have a fairly different playing experience (but you wouldn't know how different it is unless you put time into the vanilla game). And then there is this - are you going to play it single player or on a server with other players? Both have it's pro's and con's and that is something you'll have to figure out on your own. Nice thing about single player mode is that you "can" use console commands if you get stuck or screwed. This is my watered down answer, hope this helps!!

Edit: What was I thinking...Hell yes, play Project Eden, it's great!

I'll echo MDMchan - PE is great. I'm Eager for the 1.8 mod to be released