Hearts of Iron IV

Hearts of Iron IV

EU4 Style Monuments
Dr. House 25 May, 2021 @ 4:03pm
Potential Additional Monuments Proposal
Hello everyone! Great mod.. (sigh) lemonporn!

I have come here to start this discussion to first thank you for this great mod lemon, as it's quite incredible, but after downloading and looking through the mod i was a little disappointed to not see a few monuments which could easily made it to your list, that's why i come forward with my own list of proposals that could be added if you consider continuing development and see this discussion. I will try to present my list as best as i can, since im not a native english speaker and not a great writer. Let's start then.

Biggest Disappointments
..and the Start of the whole idea.
This is not meant to be critique pointed to the author and the mod, but the lack of the Malbork Castle was the biggest surprise and disappointment about the mod for me, since it's a huge monument, the biggest castle in the world actually, and even has it's own story during WW2 when it was used for it's original purpose for last time when the Germans were using it as a defensive position against the Soviet Army (Based off of this maybe it could give some defense-related bonuses?). But hey if it was included this list wouldn't have existed since this was what motivated me to spend a couple of hours for research and writing this.

The Second thing that IMO this mod was lacking was monuments for Austria, since Vienna alone has numerous palaces like:
-Hofburg Palace
-Schonbrunn Palace
-Belvedere
and many more places like the Hohensalzburg Fortress. I saw a general lack of monuments in the Balkan Region, so here, after a small introduction comes the first part of my list

The Balkans
Here's a few of my propositions of monuments to add to a couple of balkan nations

Czechoslovakia:
-Charles Bridge
-Prague Castle
-Cathedral of St. Peter and Paul

Hungary:
-Hungarian Parliament Building
-Buda Castle
-Balaton Lake

Romania:
-Bran Castle (Dracula's Castle)
-The Black Church
-Iron Gates Gorge on the Danube (Would work for Yugoslavia too since it's on the border)

Yugoslavia:
-The Belgrade Fortress
-Pula Arena/Amphitheatre
-Plitvice Lakes

Bulgaria:
-Alexander Nevsky Cathedral

Greece:
-Mount Ida/Psiloritis

Okay that's all for the balkans, let's move to part two!

Poland and the Baltics
Similar to the Balkans i didn't see any monuments for Poland and the Baltic Region, while i suspect that this situation might be due to the upcoming update which would cause problems, i will list a couple of places that could be added (with a strong Polish bias since im Polish)
Let's go!

Poland:
-Wawel Castle
-Kraków Cloth Hall/Sukiennice
-St. Mary's Basilica
-Jagiellonian University
-Royal Castle in Warsaw
-Wilanów Palace
-Łazienki Palace/Park
-Zamość Old City
-Gate of Dawn/Ostra Brama/Ausros Vartai/ in Wilno

Lithuania:
-Hill of Crosses
-Pazaislis Monastery

Latvia:
-House of the Brotherhood of Blackheads in Riga
-Riga Order Castle
-Rundale Palace
-Freedom Monument/Brivibas Piemineklis

Estonia:
-Kadriorg Palace

That would be all for the region, time for part three!

Asia and the Middle East
While in Asia there was a good amount of landmarks and monuments the Middle East was a bit lacking, so here's a few of my ideas for it, and a couple for Asia too!

China:
-Imperial Palace of Manchukuo (Puyi's Palace)

Iraq/Persia:
-Taq Kasra
-Great Mosque of Samarra

Turkey:
-The Blue Mosque
-Topkapi Palace

And now comes the last part of my list

Everything Else and Honorable Mentions
Here are listed all the other monuments that didn't fit any region and a few bad ideas that don't make that much sense to be added

So the last positions are:
-Douaumont Ossuary
-Palace of the Normans
-University of Bologna
-'lolani Palace

And the Honorable Mentions:
-Tsaritsyn Cathedral (possible to rebuild if Russia is somehow not communist or fascist/controlling country isn't communist or fascist)
-The Baikal Itself as a monument
-Temple of Heaven (Technically Mentioned in the Forbidden City's Description)

That's all.

Of course there is no need to add any one of these, it's up to the mod's author what to add and what not, though i would be beyond happy if even one position would make it.

Thank you all for coming to my TEDx talk and i hope you see this and consider my proposal Lemon!
Last edited by Dr. House; 25 May, 2021 @ 4:17pm
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LimonenZitrone  [developer] 25 May, 2021 @ 10:37pm 
I actually didn't know Malbork Castle, shame on me :P

And fair enough, there are indeed a lot of places not or just barely touched, I'll go through the list and see what I can put into the mod properly (a few of them I already had noted as further additions).
Last edited by LimonenZitrone; 25 May, 2021 @ 10:37pm
Doctrine 28 May, 2021 @ 3:07am 
Why not more mountains? Matterhorn, Mt. Elbrus, Vesuvius are pretty big names.
What about the Galapagos Islands? It might deserve to be a wonder.
Is the Kiel canal too small to give bonuses like Suez and Panama? Well, it's not really necessary since it's not very famous outside of Europe.
Also is there a list of things you already included in the mod? I might have missed it. It's so that I don't embarrass myself by proposing something already in the mod.
LimonenZitrone  [developer] 28 May, 2021 @ 3:27am 
I haven't made a list other than the list in-game, but I suspect I could make a discussion here with all.
Hate 2 Jun, 2021 @ 8:40am 
I would like to see some Korean monuments, such as the royal tombs of the Joseon Dynasty and the Changdeokgung Palace Complex.
Wuzzle 4 Jun, 2021 @ 8:14pm 
I suggest the addition of the various mountains and volcanoes around New Zealand as they're important parts of the local mythology.

The indigenous people have even made stories about them.

I also suggest the addition of Lake Taupo since that's a well known part of New Zealand's north island and its exclusion from the map of HoI4 is incredibly jarring to me.
Wuzzle 4 Jun, 2021 @ 8:40pm 
Also, since you seem to want to add more monuments, I suggest following UNESCO's selection criteria for World Heritage Sites which you can find here[en.wikipedia.org]
Starwalker 7 Jun, 2021 @ 6:55am 
Hi, I had some Monument Ideas for Persia/Iran I tried to keep them time appropriate (existed in 1939) and will try to suggest some Boosts for them

(I will refer to the Kings of Iran as Shah)
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sa%27dabad_Complex

The Sa'dabad Palace, A complex of building Where the Shah Lived in the Capital of Tehran

Boost to daily Political Power Generation
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persepolis

Ceremonial Capital of the Achaemenid Empire(2000-3000 Years old) which holds great cultural and Historical Value among Iranians


Boost to Recruitable Population Factor, Due to patriotism
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arg-e_Bam#Citadel_design_and_architecture

The City of Bam which is the largest human built area made of adobe (Straw & Mud Bricks) which is 2500 years old, It had a Large Bazaar in its prime

In 2003 after a massive earthquake that Destroyed the entire city, the Iranian government started a Reconstruction Project that was successful in reviving the city

Boost to Economy (Consumer Goods %) due to the Historic Bazaar
or
Boost to Construction Speed, Kind of meta but due to the successful modern reconstruction
TY 29 Jun, 2021 @ 12:30am 
What about the Great Wall?
LimonenZitrone  [developer] 29 Jun, 2021 @ 1:11am 
Originally posted by RMD Angel:
What about the Great Wall?

Kinda strange to fi itt into one state, but I suppose I can add it to one.
Angelos Komnenos 12 Jul, 2021 @ 2:26pm 
Feel like the Soviets should could use a bit more monuments,
Some suggestions:
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the Dnipro Hydroelectric Power Plant was Europe's largest hydro plant in 1934, it was built during the first Five Year Plan.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dnieper_Hydroelectric_Station
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and Mount Elbrus is the highest mountain in Europe.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mount_Elbrus
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The soviets could also be given the decision to build the Trans-Siberian railway as a national monument for its sheer size and length. It could be built on the tile of Yekaterinburg or Novosibirsk just like the GWC.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trans-Siberian_Railway
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Furthermore, the Kazan Cathedral had a very interesting story during WWII. The Orthdox Pope prayed to the Mother-of-God of Kazan at the start of the Battle of Moscow, it was said that the Mother-of-God told the Pope in the dream that a record breaking blizzard will appear by the end of the year, which it did. Though it seems pretty mysterious, I think it would be a nice background story for a modifier that adds some winter combat capability for the USSR.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kazan_Cathedral,_Saint_Petersburg
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The Saint Isaac Cathedral is also in Leningrad, it's the in first picture of the Siege of Leningrad wiki page, the building behind those AA guns.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint_Isaac%27s_Cathedral
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Leningrad
cesarso35 13 Jul, 2021 @ 4:40pm 
El Obelisco in Buenos Aires
Hate 31 Jul, 2021 @ 7:22pm 
The Brest Fortress should be a monument as well, perhaps only available to the Soviets or Poles. 20% entrenchment bonus, 10% division defense, 5% war support, or something to those effects
Hate 31 Jul, 2021 @ 7:22pm 
Also, I'd like to re-suggest Korean monuments. Would work wonders alongside a Korea mod I'm doing
Georus 1 Aug, 2021 @ 10:37pm 
Originally posted by LimonenZitrone:
Originally posted by RMD Angel:
What about the Great Wall?

Kinda strange to fi itt into one state, but I suppose I can add it to one.
EU4 has the great wall in a single province
LimonenZitrone  [developer] 2 Aug, 2021 @ 7:33am 
Originally posted by Georus:
Originally posted by LimonenZitrone:

Kinda strange to fi itt into one state, but I suppose I can add it to one.
EU4 has the great wall in a single province

I know and I added it. It is still a bit strange.
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