MechWarrior 5: Mercenaries

MechWarrior 5: Mercenaries

Yet Another Mechlab
Why is this mod ON Steam Workshop if the 3rd-Party mod that controls this mod's configuration IS NOT?
Just what it says on the tin. Why is YAML on Steam Workshop, when "Mod Options" is not?
Why should users of Steam Workshop have to go to an outside website, manually download/install/configure this third-party mod, just to be able to properly access the configurable options of YAML?

Anyone willing to go through all the hoops of manual mod installation...would not bother using Steam Workshop; people use Steam Workshop so that they don't HAVE to jump through all these hoops to use mods with their games.

It seems this mod doesn't understand its intended 'target market' when presenting itself here on Steam...
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malgrumm 8 Jun, 2022 @ 7:10am 
What mod options are you referring to exactly?
Delvan 8 Jun, 2022 @ 11:34am 
They're referring to this: https://www.nexusmods.com/mechwarrior5mercenaries/mods/537

I am using YAML without that mod, all it does is give you a GUI in the game's own options menu to modify many of the options this mod has. I am thoroughly annoyed that it has a dependency on something that isn't in steam workshop, but its not really in cszolee79's hands if that one is here, that' be BobbertModdert.
malgrumm 8 Jun, 2022 @ 2:39pm 
Is that mod needed to get a good run out of MW5 with YAML installed? Personally i've never even needed a mod like the one you listed so i don't see what OP's complaining about, so what if you have to get that mod separately, it's easy it install if you follow the instructions on the Nexus page.

I do get why OP's annoyed that it's not on the Steam workshop but it's as you said, it's up to the mod creator to put in on here but if they did that would mean splitting their time between keeping the Nexus one and the Steam workshop one up to date at the same time.
cszolee79  [developer] 8 Jun, 2022 @ 4:24pm 
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"It seems this mod doesn't understand its intended 'target market' when presenting itself here on Steam..."
Sorry, did you actually say target market?
For a mod I'm making in my free time, for free?
Target market, really? What's next, free tech support and refunds?
Daidoji 9 Jun, 2022 @ 12:27pm 
I don't entirely disagree with your sentiment OP but it's up to the author if they want to put their mod on steam or not. Cszolee could just rip the code without asking and call it a day but that's not how the mod community works or should work.

You could also just blame Epic (it's so easy) at the end of the day for it being out a full year on there before steam.

But being a non platform specific game authors use nexus mods to provide for the entire mechwarrior community.

Tabletop Playground is going through the same stigma, and people think that mods should be workshop only instead of using mod.io But this allows them to release the game on multiple platforms like android and ios while still providing the same mods to everyone.

The funny thing about that is that unlike nexus, mod.io is actually integrated within the game itself so you don't even have to manually install anything. But these entitled players freak out because it's linked to a 3rd party website or they have to browse their computer files.

"Oh no I have to open a folder on my PC? that's scary!"
Skochtape 15 Jun, 2022 @ 6:23am 
This is the most entitled little rant I've ever read. Especially for an incredibly well made FREE PRODUCT. Congratulations, you're the worst.
WaraPig 16 Jun, 2022 @ 4:46pm 
No this rant is completely reasonable considering I doubt I'm the only one that tried to use this mod only to find that I couldn't access any of the options or notice any change at all. Literally had to read through the comments to try and find info and this is the first thread I see.
Add that to there not being a mention of it being required, screenshots on advertising and IT LITERALLY NOT FULLY FUNCTIONING WITHOUT IT, I'd say its kinda dumb on the mod creators part. Why is this mod here if we can't use it with the tools available to us on this platform??? Why waste the time developing features that we can't see without said tools. Doesn't make sense.
ForteDS 17 Jun, 2022 @ 4:04pm 
Well, that answer is simple. It's because cszolee79 uploaded his mod to Steam Workshops, and the modder that created Mod Options, BobbertModdert, did not.

cszolee79 cannot upload mods to Steam that he didn't make, but he can include functionality for said mod. If you don't have Mod Options, then you can still use YAML in it's default configuration, and it still works.

Mod Options on Nexus is still free and easy to install, just got to open up a folder and drag and drop. Not really a reason to come on here and act like the mod creator did something wrong by adding more stuff.

And no, just because it's slightly inconvenient to you doesn't mean either mod creator did something wrong. You could go on Nexus and ask BobbertModdert to bring it to Steam, but not really obligated to do that.
Last edited by ForteDS; 17 Jun, 2022 @ 4:06pm
Dizzy 17 Jun, 2022 @ 8:12pm 
It's just too much work to go spend 10 seconds to grab the options mod!!

/s
bhaalspawn 18 Jun, 2022 @ 1:26am 
Originally posted by WaraPig:
No this rant is completely reasonable considering I doubt I'm the only one that tried to use this mod only to find that I couldn't access any of the options or notice any change at all. Literally had to read through the comments to try and find info and this is the first thread I see.
Add that to there not being a mention of it being required, screenshots on advertising and IT LITERALLY NOT FULLY FUNCTIONING WITHOUT IT, I'd say its kinda dumb on the mod creators part. Why is this mod here if we can't use it with the tools available to us on this platform??? Why waste the time developing features that we can't see without said tools. Doesn't make sense.

It says it on the games menu screen, also provides a link to download the required mod.
The basic options work fine without the additional mod, its just the extra settings that need it.
For me Bobberts mod crashes the game so I just enable it if I want to change a setting then un-enable it.
If I can do it, anyone can.
MaMoKe 19 Jun, 2022 @ 2:19pm 
obvious troll is obvious, wants mod, finds free mod that has less bugs than the payed for game. Finds out that for some of the features there is a convenient second free mod available..... goes to the comments to do justice to his name...

Let me fix your ridiculous comment.
Wow how amazing this mod is available on steam workshop as well as on Nexus, thank you developer for making it available here as well, shame the other mod creator didn't do this now I have to do a bit of extra work for all this extra free fun, but hey your mod is amazing! Thanks for your efforts.
Stix_09 30 Jun, 2022 @ 6:29pm 
"It seems this mod doesn't understand its intended 'target market' when presenting itself here on Steam..."

OMG seriously.... ffs :steamfacepalm:

That mod (MOD OPTIONS) is not owned by this mod author and its purely optional mod (recommended) as said in description), that lets you change settings in game as apposed to editing a file.

Try asking the author of that mod if its possible to put it on steam.

There are many mods not on steam because ppl do not own the game on steam...
Last edited by Stix_09; 30 Jun, 2022 @ 6:31pm
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