Garry's Mod

Garry's Mod

The IRIS Initiative (p2 themed map)
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Awesome A 18 Jan, 2022 @ 3:57pm
Crashes the game before I can even play the map
Anybody else having a similar problem?
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Blue  [developer] 19 Jan, 2022 @ 7:23am 
im hoping others with this problem can reply with more info if possible. i think your the 2nds person who has reported this problem.

to help them and you out, I'll ask you to do the following:
1. enable logging if its not already enabled in the dev console by typing:
log on
2. add
-condebug -uselogdir
to gmod's startup command line
3. send me your console.log (and any other ones that look important in the logs folder)

I don't know if it will actually help diagnose the issue but it's worth a shot. if the game has any invisible errors before crashing, they'll probably be there if they happen at all.
Last edited by Blue; 19 Jan, 2022 @ 7:27am
I was having this problem earlier, I spent a few hours going through my addon area and found that the addon 'Map Retexturiser' caused the crash for me, can this please be added to the description to prevent further comments on this issue?

Note that I have NOT enabled the rest of my addons, it could be a limit as to how much the game can handle along with the map.
Okay, I got a crash after I removed Map Retexturiser, the result is possibly a clutterstruck addon file, I'd suggest removing what you don't use. It could also be another addon compatibility issue, I'll continue to look into it.
Extended Spawnmenu also causes a crash.
Blue  [developer] 20 Jan, 2022 @ 12:49pm 
Originally posted by The_Gaming_Loyalist:
Extended Spawnmenu also causes a crash.

not on my end. i doubt any of these addons are actually responsible.
The_Gaming_Loyalist 20 Jan, 2022 @ 10:03pm 
Huh, I guess it was an addon overload on my end, I'm not sure but I can now play the map with those two and many others I removed.
Awesome A 21 Jan, 2022 @ 3:43am 
@The_Gaming_Loyalist I did what you commented and I disabled my Map retexturizer and my extended spawn menu, it actually worked! My game loaded the map with no problems whatsoever, Thanks!
No problem!
Blue  [developer] 21 Jan, 2022 @ 7:02am 
Originally posted by Awesome A:
@The_Gaming_Loyalist I did what you commented and I disabled my Map retexturizer and my extended spawn menu, it actually worked! My game loaded the map with no problems whatsoever, Thanks!

oh, huh....maybe those 2 addons do affect people with this map under certain circumstances then.

i cant reproduce the issue on my end (i play with these addons all the time, and the map doesnt crash for me...at least, not often, and not immidiately.)

but, since it seems these 2 might potentially cause issues for this map, ill put a warning in the description about it.
I don't know what the case is, my PC is reasonably beefy and yet it was those two, it can't be an addon conflict because it works for some, perhaps we both had another addon that caused something else that I'm not sure of.

I also have around 600 addons in use so it could have been that my addon file is clutterstruck.
Blue  [developer] 21 Jan, 2022 @ 8:45am 
Originally posted by The_Gaming_Loyalist:

I also have around 600 addons in use so it could have been that my addon file is clutterstruck.

very unlikely because thats not actually how it works. most newer addons are stored somewhere in steam's own workshop directory each in seperate subfolders inside of gmod's appid folder. older addons are all stored in garry's mod's addons directory, again all as seperate files. there is not a singular "addon file" that got...clutterstruck, whatever that means.

it is far more likely that there is another addon causing the issue which would be very difficult to determine, especially with 600 addons installed,

but its also likely just these 2 in particular because they both try to access and index in-game content in some way, which likely runs out of memory with maps that have a large amount of content directly packed into the map bsp file itself (and not included as seperate files in the addon.)


have you had the same issue with other maps containing abnormally large amounts of custom content packed into the bsp?
Last edited by Blue; 21 Jan, 2022 @ 8:47am
I think I have, and with an addon such as map retexturiser, that would have 'access' to each and every texture in the map I suppose, depending on how demanding the .bsp is, with the amount of custom content packed in (not sure how hammer even let a map like this exist with the detail), I'd guess that any pushes can bring the game to a crash. At least, that's what I think the issue is with map retexturiser.

But as for extended spawnmenu, no clue how that can make problems if all it does is alter the spawnmenu. Map retexturiser has caused issues in the past, that one was one I thought of originally.

Yes, there could be another addon that had a problem that I was unaware of, I didn't go plucking out two files, I removed somewhat 200 addons prior when I thought it was that there were too many to cope with along with the map too.

It's no doubt another addon that I have installed that you don't, but it's impossible to find now that the issue is gone, I've removed every addon that creates a script error or creates a problem of some sort.

Not sure what the problem is but it's fixed, I suppose.

Also, it wasn't an immediate crash that I got, map retexturiser crashed the map around 'loading resources' near a third finished. Extended spawnmenu crashes the game right as it's about to launch.
Last edited by The_Gaming_Loyalist; 21 Jan, 2022 @ 9:28am
Blue  [developer] 21 Jan, 2022 @ 9:52am 
Originally posted by The_Gaming_Loyalist:
long informative comment

ah, good to know its fixed and all, somewhat anyways. thanks for the clarification. im just doing my best to make infomed guesses at things but sometimes im a long way off... tbh ive had a couple crashes on this map too but they didnt always happen so i wasnt really sure if it was worth a good look at the issue. usually i've crashed when going through doors in the map but nobody else has gotten that far it seems.
Blue  [developer] 23 Jan, 2022 @ 1:16pm 
Im going to lock this thread as it's purpose has now been superceded by the other thread i just made and pinned.
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