The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim

The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim

Lycans vs Vampires (Part 1 - the Silver Hand Vampires)
sp0ckrates  [developer] 21 Jun, 2014 @ 1:00pm
Minor Bugs and Fixes
If you find any suspected bugs, or verify any fixes, please post a comment, here. I'll keep updating this list for anyone who is interested.


Fixed Bugs

Bugs confirmed fixed as of the latest update. (For more information, please see the Change Notes.)

* Farkas Bugs Fixed: Modified the script used to change the Companions into werewolves to prevent Farkas from turning into a werewolf more than once during the quest "Proving Honor." Fixed a bug where he was not using a weapon during the same quest. Added scripts to ensure that he equips Wolf armor and a Skyforge Steel greatsword after the completion of the same quest.

* Vilkas Bug Fixed: Modified the script used to change the Companions into werewolves to prevent Vilkas from changing during the quest "Take Up Arms," where the player was required to spar with Vilkas to test his arm and prove he has the combat skill to become a companion. (This still occurs under specific circumstances, but there is a workaround that works every time. See "Vilkas and the 'Taking Up Arms' Quest," below.)

* Silver Weapons Fixed: The extra damage of the silver hand swords and silver hand great swords was effecting only werewolves. This is fixed, and the extra damage now also applies to trolls, frost trolls, bears, cave bears, snow bears, dogs, horkers, sabre cats, snowy sabre cats, skeevers, wolves and ice wolves.

* Game Now Loads When You Are Not Subscribed to All Races Drop Skulls: This will no longer happen if you are not subscribed to All Races Drop Skulls. That mod is no longer required by this mod, so Skyrim will now load if you don't have both mods.

* Silver Hand No Longer Have Grey Faces: This is a common bug reported by mod makers. Characters they add or change have a facial skin tone that is darker than the skin tone of their bodies. I believe I have fixed these, but if you find any Silver Hand with grey faces, let me know. This only effects the Silver Hand NPCs changed or added by the mod.


Existing Minor Bugs

Minor bugs you might notice while using this mod. Will add fixes for these in future updates, when available.

Vilkas and the "Taking Up Arms" Quest: During the quest "Taking Up Arms," Vilkas might still turn into a werewolf if the player exists Jorvaskarr before he does, instead of following him outside. I'm working on a fix for this, but in the meantime, the workaround (which works every time tested) is to wait for him to go out the door of Jorvaskarr, during the quest and THEN follow him outside. He then won't turn into a werewolf while he is testing your arm.

* Animation for Companions Transforming Back Into Nords: When a Companion who had transformed into a werewolf transforms back into a Nord, there is no animation showing the transformation, like there is when he or she transforms into a werewolf. I'm looking into a fix for this.

* Aela Waits: During one test of the quest "The Silver Hand" Aela the Huntress did not put her weapon away and follow the Dragonborn into the fort right away. The workaround was to wait one hour and then talk to Aela. She then followed the Dragonborn, instead of waiting outside. If you can't find Aela, fast travel to the same location and she will rejoin you. I believe this is a bug already in the game, and not caused by the mod itself.

* A Few Silver Hand Leaders are Not Vampires: During side quests, "Striking the Heart" and "Stealing Plans," the Silver Hand leader is not a vampire boss, but a fighter with a two-handed weapon. This is because the quest, instead of using the Silver Hand leader NPC, uses a bandit NPC and renames him Silver Hand Leader. I've found a fix for this that looks promising, but I want to test it in game before adding it to the next update.


Not Really Bugs

Things you might think are bugs, but are really by design.

* Silver Hand Thralls Drop Draugr Bone Meal: This is not a bug. The thralls drop ingredients for potions the Silver Hand vampires use. Bone Meal is one of the ingredients for these potions, so they are not really Draugr.

* Silver Hand Vampires Sleeping Like Draugr: During a few in-game tests, the Silver Hand Vampires were found sleeping in the crypts with the draugrs. I'm guessing this is not a bug, but is actual behavior for vampires, who will sometimes sleep in either coffins or burial crypts during the day.

* Some Silver Hand Vampires Not Wearing Dawnguard Vampire Armor: If you have the Dawnguard DLC, many but not all Silver Hand vampires will wear the new vampire armor. This appears to be by design. Some vampires have a chance to wear clothing, instead of armor, especially if the player's character is low level.


Please report any others bugs you suspect. I'll keep a complete list, here.




Last edited by sp0ckrates; 14 Jul, 2014 @ 3:24pm
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Ironic Pickle Jar 27 Jun, 2014 @ 4:57pm 
Not sure if this is a bug or glitch but after I finish proving honor, they say to talk to the companion leaders for more work but, I can't ask for more work nor does it activate added me into the circle.
sp0ckrates  [developer] 27 Jun, 2014 @ 6:14pm 
Tuxedo:

Sounds like the quest is not marked as completed. Do you still have the quest Proving Honor in your list of pending quests, or is it marked complete? Do you have the shard of the Wuuthrad in your inventory?
Last edited by sp0ckrates; 27 Jun, 2014 @ 6:16pm
Ironic Pickle Jar 27 Jun, 2014 @ 10:08pm 
The quest is marked as complete and I don't have the shard of wuuthrad in my inventory, although under the quest, return to jorrvaskr is un-checked.
sp0ckrates  [developer] 27 Jun, 2014 @ 10:26pm 
Tuxedo:

OK. Return to Dustman's Cairn. Turn left and go through the secret passage where you exited Dustman's Crypt. Go to the word wall where you got the shout. In front of the word wall is a stone table with the shard. You need that to complete the quest.
sp0ckrates  [developer] 27 Jun, 2014 @ 10:30pm 
If the secret passage is not visible, you left the dungeon before getting to the last room. Go back to Dustman's Cairn and retrace your steps till you pick up where you left off.

Let me know if you need more guidance.
Ironic Pickle Jar 29 Jun, 2014 @ 9:39pm 
So I went back to dustmans cairn and checked and the fragment was not there. I do remember it saying fragment of wuuthrad removed after I returned to jorrvaskr.
sp0ckrates  [developer] 30 Jun, 2014 @ 4:44am 
OK. A few thousand subscribers, and no one else has reported this. So I believe it is either a bug caused by another mod, or a bug in Skyrim, itself. When I experience such bugs, I temporarily unsubscribe from all mods and load a save made prior to noticing the bug. In your case, I'd load a save prior to returning to Whiterun. I also try to change the steps I took, just in case those series of steps caused the bug. So in your case, I would not enter Jorrvaskr, but instead, walk around the building to the courtyard and speak to Kodlak.

If that does not work, try unsubscribing from all mods and load a save made prior to picking up the shard in Dustman's Crypt.

If either method works, subscribe to the mods again, after all quest goals are marked as completed. Let me know if you need more help.
Xell 31 Aug, 2015 @ 1:40pm 
not sure if bug but ive completed the questline and have aela as a follower but aela no longer transforms into a werewolf when on low health
sp0ckrates  [developer] 1 Sep, 2015 @ 9:54am 
Xen: Do you have any other mods that change Aela, the companions or the Nord race?
ArctiWolf 5 Dec, 2015 @ 2:04pm 
When Farkas first transforms in the proving honor quest he never changed back and he kept repeating the transformation animation after a few minutes. It looks sick but still bothers me.
sp0ckrates  [developer] 6 Dec, 2015 @ 6:33am 
Super: Thanks for letting me know. Did you subscribe to the mod before November 2015? The update released prior to then was designed to fix this bug.
sp0ckrates  [developer] 6 Dec, 2015 @ 6:37am 
The answer to this question might help me fix it: Did he turn into a werewolf before you were trapped behind the bars, or when the Silverhand surrounded him after you were trapped?
Da Killah 10 Jul, 2016 @ 6:05pm 
I have a concern to report: I'm doing the companions radiant quests, and everytime I get back to Jorvaskrr, Farkas transforms into a werewolf when not in combat. Is this a bug?
sp0ckrates  [developer] 11 Jul, 2016 @ 10:34am 
Steve: Thanks for letting me know. Please tell me: What other Companions quest do you have active?
Da Killah 12 Jul, 2016 @ 4:36am 
Uhm, I was doing quests given by vilkas and aela. when i get to farkas, he just transforms into beast form and doe'snt transform back. even if i make him a follower, same thing.
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