Total War: WARHAMMER III

Total War: WARHAMMER III

AI General 3
paperpancake  [developer] 21 Oct, 2022 @ 2:51pm
Walled Siege Battle Crash?
12/2022 Edit: I've added this to the known issues list and added a configuration option that allows you to disable AI General 3 in walled siege battles.

Please discuss.

Some users are starting to report walled siege battle crashes again. How many people are experiencing this? How often is it happening?

I don't know what would cause this. Walled siege battles did cause crashes before. They seemed to stop months ago when I was fixing and streamlining parts of the script for other reasons. I never fully understood what caused and what resolved the siege crash issue. So I don't really know what to look for. The crashes were not predictably reproducible months ago. And in recent months I haven't reproduce them at all on my computer. Does anyone have a way to consistently reproduce this issue?

I'm afraid that whatever the problem is, it might be somewhere in the game's C++ layer. I don't have access to the C++ code. This might be beyond my ability to diagnose and fix. Right now, the best that I know how to offer would be to add it to the known issues list if enough people confirm this issue, and/or to create a configuration option to that will enable/disable this mod in walled settlement battles.

Thoughts?
Last edited by paperpancake; 12 Dec, 2022 @ 12:33am
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damasta 30 Oct, 2022 @ 7:43am 
hello, just got this problem, game crash during a siege battle just when i press shift+F9 or F10...using this mod for a long time (in warhammer 1 and 2 too) and first time i have this problem
Tim Shady 31 Oct, 2022 @ 11:15am 
Just had this happen, instant freeze during a walled settlement, clicked the AI for all my units and then hit start.

Edit: Have noticed this would happen in the past, though it seems to be hit or miss and sometimes seemingly random.
Last edited by Tim Shady; 31 Oct, 2022 @ 11:17am
(*'-') 10 Nov, 2022 @ 3:46pm 
I've done 30+ sieges and never had issue, but yeah I finally froze up in one. Was like 7 minutes into the siege and gave 15 units to the ai, the game was paused, i could still see animations, but i couldnt click anything. It happens but it's pretty rare it feels like tim said.
paperpancake  [developer] 10 Nov, 2022 @ 6:11pm 
Thank you all for your reports so far. I added this to the Known Issues, but I still welcome bug reports in case some detail stands out or some pattern emerges. I'm sorry that I don't know of a better solution yet. :(
(*'-') 10 Nov, 2022 @ 7:25pm 
Originally posted by paperpancake:
Thank you all for your reports so far. I added this to the Known Issues, but I still welcome bug reports in case some detail stands out or some pattern emerges. I'm sorry that I don't know of a better solution yet. :(

In that case I'll get as specific as I possibly can. It was co-op, friend was Taurox with the starting army, I was Cylostra Direfin. He reinforced me assaulting pfieldorf that greenskins owned. I was mostly using the starting army with a few raise deads.

I can't tell whether it froze up when I initially gave control over, or when I tried removing the boomer from the ai control.
Flaps 10 Nov, 2022 @ 8:57pm 
I'm doing a Skaven playthrough and I have it happen pretty frequently on a walled orc siege, usually happens whenever you would activate too many AI too quickly. It happened to me when I turn on AI for 6 reinforcing troops just now.
Blue Stalker 11 Nov, 2022 @ 6:11am 
Immediately after starting the siege, select Shift+F10 and the game will be broken as soon as your ally starts to engage the enemy.
RexJayden 20 Nov, 2022 @ 3:58pm 
I have used this mod for quite some time with no issues (which is why I enjoy it so much) but now, siege battles crash to a halt and I have an Nvidia 3090TI. :sadpanda:
thefinn88 4 Dec, 2022 @ 3:46pm 
Yeah I just rocked up to this mod page because it was crashing on me. Not sure what the problem was.

I'd love it to work without crashing.
paperpancake  [developer] 12 Dec, 2022 @ 12:42am 
Today's update adds a configuration option that allows you to disable AI General 3 in walled siege battles. I know it's not the best solution.

Thank you for the details. It sounds like a common theme is when there are reinforcements and/or allies. I also appreciate the info about what types of armies you were using. I'll experiment with this more the next time that I test. Any other details that stand out are welcome, especially if you figure out a way to consistently reproduce the issue.
Last edited by paperpancake; 12 Dec, 2022 @ 12:43am
RexJayden 12 Dec, 2022 @ 4:18pm 
Originally posted by paperpancake:
Today's update adds a configuration option that allows you to disable AI General 3 in walled siege battles. I know it's not the best solution.

Thank you for the details. It sounds like a common theme is when there are reinforcements and/or allies. I also appreciate the info about what types of armies you were using. I'll experiment with this more the next time that I test. Any other details that stand out are welcome, especially if you figure out a way to consistently reproduce the issue.

Thank you for the update, paperpancake! (wholesome) :lunar2020contentgoat:
Mentalize 14 Sep, 2024 @ 6:05pm 
Walled Siege Crash continuing to present itself. (Worse with new Hot-fix Updates).

Assigning units to the AI General doesn't cause any issues, this freeze or screen pause occurs when you select a legendary lord or hero/mage to be AI controlled.

Not sure exactly the cause, although I know with the most recent update, It occurs in about 9/10 battles I've tested this with.
HAVOC5150 2 Oct, 2024 @ 7:41am 
Well I had a crash in one battle and no crash in the next. In the first battle I forgot i had the additional, weak army of allied units and it was sitting there. I assigned ALL of them to AI general and it crashed instantly.
In the 2nd try I didn't put everyone on AI general immedietly. I paused, then selected groups of 3 or 4 and it didn't crash when I placed them on ai general.
HAVOC5150 2 Oct, 2024 @ 7:51am 
Eventually when I added enough units to ai general it did crash in the 2nd battle, but by then I had almost beaten the battle. I tend to put my units on AI control at the end of battles so they can go chase down everyone.
Delythyx 28 Nov, 2024 @ 11:55am 
just had a crash right now in walled siege, first time using this mod recently, havent been playing for a while, but am old user of the mod.

edit: the post is 2022 so I guess no fix available lol
Last edited by Delythyx; 28 Nov, 2024 @ 11:56am
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