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The Last Days of the Third Age
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Reeke 9 Sep, 2018 @ 12:58pm
Rohan really needs better A.I like in PoP for how they handle cavalry (horse archers are fine!)
Rohan A.I lords will instantly send cavalry troops charging at the very start of every battle, with no formation. This means they run into the enemy one at a time very loose and space out - normally to their deaths and it's quite a while before the ground troops catch up.

This is really bad A.I and not how cavalry should be used. For good cavalry use from the A.I, PoP comes to mind. They A.I in that mod is REALLY good at handling their horse troops - they'll line up, take their time, move into postition, and then charge in a proper formation so they hit infantry like a brick wall comprised of horses & spears

Any plans for improving the A.I like that? It's pretty annoying while helping Rohan allies in big battles to see them waste so many of their cavalry just through bad use of them.
Last edited by Reeke; 9 Sep, 2018 @ 1:06pm
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Kham  [developer] 9 Sep, 2018 @ 1:11pm 
Are you playing with the new beta formations? (Camp --> TLD Options --> Formations AI --> New FormAI (beta)

Try that out and see if it is any better.

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Reeke 10 Sep, 2018 @ 5:44am 
Originally posted by Kham:
Are you playing with the new beta formations? (Camp --> TLD Options --> Formations AI --> New FormAI (beta)

Try that out and see if it is any better.

Yep I made sure that was enabled when I started a new game.

The changes were instantly recognisable on the ground troops. Rohan troops would form tight squares, Isengard troops would form looser rectangle formations and they'd jocky for positioning.

There was no change with cavalry though. Sadly they just charge one at a time straight away with no timing or formation like they've always done.
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Kawaii Butterfly 16 Sep, 2018 @ 11:28pm 
Tottaly agree with that, my heart hurts every time i help Rohan in battles. So many good guys just dying in a very dumb way. Sometimes i think it would be better to leave them, or just to send troops without personal participating :)
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Reeke 17 Sep, 2018 @ 7:15am 
Originally posted by Kawaii Butterfly:
Tottaly agree with that, my heart hurts every time i help Rohan in battles. So many good guys just dying in a very dumb way. Sometimes i think it would be better to leave them, or just to send troops without personal participating :)

As they seem to be testing A.I formations, hopefully in a future patch the A.I will also be improved in terms of how they use cavalry, instead of just charging with no timing or formation.

If other mods can have good A.I cavalry useage, like in Prophesy of Pendor, then TLD can have good A.I for it as well, I'd hope. Then we can take part in better reinactments of the Battle of Pelennor Fields, because who doesn't want to be part of THAT charge :P
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Klaus Von Wonderstrap 27 Sep, 2021 @ 4:18pm 
years later and they still just charge in and feed their troops, feelsbad
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DasaKamov 27 Sep, 2021 @ 11:50pm 
Originally posted by Literal Gold Vacuum:
years later
Are you seriously surprised that there's a limit to what can be achieved with AI from an 11-year-old game?
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boiling pie 28 Sep, 2021 @ 12:00am 
Use native AI and make sure that horse-archer AI is activated.
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Klaus Von Wonderstrap 11 Oct, 2021 @ 8:52pm 
Originally posted by DasaKamov:
Originally posted by Literal Gold Vacuum:
years later
Are you seriously surprised that there's a limit to what can be achieved with AI from an 11-year-old game?

That is not the problem, the topic of the original post is the lack of AI that is supposed to be there. I'm surprised it hasn't been fixed after many updates since as the mod still receives attention to date. That and the fact that its been done before by other mods, and is supposed to be implemented and clearly doesn't work still. It's not an issue of the limit.
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