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So I'm really interested in your less ammo, more stats idea. I kinda did a similar stat request for the Roundabout spy revolver.

Anywho,

I like your stats, but my big question regards the stats not being applied when the gun is not weilded. Reloading is the kryptonite of all classes in tf2 which is why I think promoting having no ammo may backfire. I will say it's an incentive to use the SMG which is neither good or bad I guess? Also, how will reloading go? will it be one bullet at a time or a clip all at once?

On the Right hand side (or left if viewmodels are switched) there's a reload port, it'd be 1 round at a time. If it was a total clip, it'd make the gun fire faster, and reload 6 rounds at 10% less of the time of 1 bullet, which would make it EXTREMELY over powered.
The faster firing rate would make it good at burst attacking, but would be REALLY unreliable, since the DPS isn't consistant.

The issue with having no ammo, is just a positive, for a negative.
Do know that when 6 rounds are loaded, you get 0% weapon switch boost and 0% movement increase
5 rounds= 5% weapon switch speed and 2.5% movement speed
4 rounds = 10% and 5% etc...

Good

I like the less rounds, faster reload time but the headshot damage decrease makes it useless for quickscopes.

Maybe take the charge away alltogether, and just make it the base 149 damage headshot? Meaning

-no charged shots

Well, it's not necessarily meant for quick scoping.
It's meant to take out lower health enemies faster, since 150 is the base headshot damage, enough to kill eyelander demoknight, scouts, engineers, snipers, medics and spies.

+500% clip size (Having a total of 6)
+25% increased firing speed
+140% ammo capacity 60 (ammo)
Reload whole magazine at once.
Cannot charge
Head shot cancels the damage penalty
To head shot must aim in scope for 1.5 second
Head shot makes the rifle crit for 3 second
-25% damage to body
-50% reload speed
-50% weapon switch speed

why dont u make it a secondary can headshot 6 shots in clip 102 damage on headshot can scope and thne make a primary wep called the western call and after hiting 3 headshots u do the western call giveing u crits for the next clip mini crits 52 to 72 damage in crits on body shot and with western call headshots deal 150 no charge btw so yea
thats what i think

Originally posted by DampTemplar:

+500% clip size (Having a total of 6)
+25% increased firing speed
+140% ammo capacity 60 (ammo)
Reload whole magazine at once.
Cannot charge
Head shot cancels the damage penalty
To head shot must aim in scope for 1.5 second
Head shot makes the rifle crit for 3 second
-25% damage to body
-50% reload speed
-50% weapon switch speed

I like this idea, even though it probably won't be implemented. There needs to be a rifle that actually encourages and rewards headshots.

yes

You mean like the Bazaar Bargain?

+20% faster base reload rate while scoped

-15% damage penalty
-20% slower base reload rate if fired while unscoped

On kill: turns victim into ice.

Originally posted by DFSI Am Full Of Magic:

On kill: turns victim into ice.

.....

on kill: +25 health
-20%damage to body
evrey 5 shots you have to reload

Originally posted by Piece of Piss (No Monitor):

Originally posted by DampTemplar:

+500% clip size (Having a total of 6)
+25% increased firing speed
+140% ammo capacity 60 (ammo)
Reload whole magazine at once.
Cannot charge
Head shot cancels the damage penalty
To head shot must aim in scope for 1.5 second
Head shot makes the rifle crit for 3 second
-25% damage to body
-50% reload speed
-50% weapon switch speed

I like this idea, even though it probably won't be implemented. There needs to be a rifle that actually encourages and rewards headshots.

Bazaar Bargain rewards it, but is pretty hard to use because it has a big penalty for missing or bodyshotting :/