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Protest sign:No paying for mods
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Sny_Vs_Spyper 25 Apr, 2015 @ 8:00am
The Pros&Cons of paid modding(upload anything bad/good you think about payed modding)
Pros:
-Mods can still be subscribed to for free if the developer chooses to allow it
-Valve gets payed a bit for hosting the downloads & logistical side of downloading mods
-The mod devs get a bit of money.
-Most arguments that can be used against paying for mods can be used against paying for games
-Gives sense of reward to mod developers in the event somebody does buy a mod

Cons:
-Valve takes 25% of all profit, and Bestesda(or the dev company of the game, not sure if it's a fixed number for all workshops though) takes 50% of all profit. Only leaving 25% of the money to go to the actual person who made the mod in the first place(who, let's not forget, actually payed to get the game in order to mod it on the first place)
-Have to make $400($100 in your name since valve & bethesda take 75%) in order to actually recieve any money.
-People who otherwise would've downloaded the mod, enjoyed it and then donated to the modder who made it, can't. Since they won't be buying a mod that they don't even know works
- Lots of people are abusing it by taking mods off the nexus and uploadiing them on here for money.
-Could've added a 'donate' button instead
-People abusing the refund system by simply copying the mod files to, say, a USB stick then getting a refund & still having the mod
-If a mod gets an update and it breaks your game & you've passed your 24 refund mark, then you're stuck with a broken mod.
-People posting hundreds of literally useless mods in an attempt to rake in money, thus drowning out any actual mods.
-Modding is a hobby, not a career. Same as gaming, though there are people who make an absurd ammount of money from gaming *cough cough* markiplier *cough* pewdiepie* *cough cough*, it's still not a career
-Where do you draw the line? Do Gmod dupes & saves get money, too? If so, there's going to be a lot of billionare 5-7 year olds.
-Lots of absurdely-priced 'mods' uploaded for purposes of trolling, only.
-Donations exist, so that if somebody actually feels like a mod was worth their money, they get to decide if they want to pay for it AFTER they've used it, not before they've used it
-It is completely legally unsound since it tries to involve modding with professionalism
-Typically, people just outright don't want to pay for mods(as selfish as it sounds, the interests of a community should allways be taken seriously)
Last edited by Sny_Vs_Spyper; 25 Apr, 2015 @ 2:06pm
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Katzen Gott 25 Apr, 2015 @ 8:35am 
pro: it's just an opportunity. No one's making every mod paid. Every author just decides himself if he wants a bit of money, or lots of downloads.
con: workshop is a total mess now. Thanks to 'protestors'
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Sny_Vs_Spyper 25 Apr, 2015 @ 8:43am 
Originally posted by Katzen Gott:
pro: it's just an opportunity. No one's making every mod paid. Every author just decides himself if he wants a bit of money, or lots of downloads.
con: workshop is a total mess now. Thanks to 'protestors'
I think you're forgetting the
HD Horse Genetalia mod for ($99.99)
Literally Nothing mod($?)
Extra Apple mod($35)(adds an apple to the bannered mare)
Rubbish Bucket DLC($?)

How 'bout this?
http://www.pcgamer.com/fake-protest-mods-hit-the-steam-workshop/

Though you do make a fair point..
Last edited by Sny_Vs_Spyper; 25 Apr, 2015 @ 8:44am
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The Great Shawarma 25 Apr, 2015 @ 11:07am 
pro: people get rewarded for the effort they make, but this can be achieved in many other ways, especially ones that do not put the modder at the end of the food chain.

con: it is completely messy legally wise and you can bet there to be a lot of intellectual property violated.
It is all good jokes and fun until money is involved. Now that money is involved it has to be professional, something that barely any modder can provide.
Just because Valve say after 24h there is no refund it doesn't mean that it holds up to national laws, as for instance in germany you have a warranty of two years with the trader (in this case Valve, not the modder) So if a broken mod is broken people can and hopefully will sue Valve for a refund. And not one in forms of steam cash, but actual cash.


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D_loaded 25 Apr, 2015 @ 11:18am 
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▂▄▅█████████▅▄▃▂ ...\☻/︻╦╤─ Copy and paste him all over the work shop so he
Il███████████████████].▌ Defeat Greedy Valve Employees!!!
◥⊙▲⊙▲⊙▲⊙▲⊙▲⊙▲⊙◤... / \
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Shekeler 25 Apr, 2015 @ 12:44pm 
Con: I already paid for the game and now I have to pay half the price of the game for a decent mod?

Modders already get money well those who have good mods do, It is called Donations! Modding shouldn't be a career and the only reason Valve and bethesda is doing this is to rake in more money, To be honest it was probably bethesda that came up with the Idea since Y'know look at Elderscrolls Online?
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raspberry 25 Apr, 2015 @ 1:59pm 
Is there a single person who knows how the legal system works? Donating to mod developers is a form of compensation for sharing copywritten content, legally speaking (but obviously not morally speaking), it would be the same thing as paying seeders for providing you with free movies and music. Even with the new system in place donation is flat out still illegal. You should petition to make donation legal if you want that as an option.
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GeeBee 25 Apr, 2015 @ 10:43pm 
"Valve gets payed a bit for hosting the downloads"- You mean 75% of the generated revenue? That hardly constitudes as a bit.
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Sny_Vs_Spyper 26 Apr, 2015 @ 3:23am 
Originally posted by GB:
"Valve gets payed a bit for hosting the downloads"- You mean 75% of the generated revenue? That hardly constitudes as a bit.
Incorrect, they get payed the same as the modder. 25% of all revenue, Bethesda take 50% of all revenue...
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Sny_Vs_Spyper 26 Apr, 2015 @ 11:24am 
Originally posted by springtrap:
Originally posted by Sny_Vs_Spyper:
Incorrect, they get payed the same as the modder. 25% of all revenue, Bethesda take 50% of all revenue...
ummm wrong bethesda isint getting any money from that infact valve are the ones that added payed mods not bethesda bethesda cant change anything about the workshop so they get nothing
You're wrong... Just blatantly wrong.
Go look this up before you start stating false truthes, okay?
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Sny_Vs_Spyper 26 Apr, 2015 @ 4:23pm 
Originally posted by springtrap:
Originally posted by Sny_Vs_Spyper:
You're wrong... Just blatantly wrong.
Go look this up before you start stating false truthes, okay?
ummm are you one of those people who thinks they always have to be right? if so dont bother trying to reply i dont want to get in a fight that lasts forever -.-
No, i'm not.
The set Valve portion of revenue is 25%, that can't and won't be changed, then they give the game developer's company (or whatever company that's legally responsible for the game) the job of deciding what ammount they want, Bethesda in this case have asked for 50% of the revenue, and valve has gladly accepted, even though that leaves only 25% left for the actual mod author(the person who did the actual work that went into the mod)
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