I just tried this myself last night... They're unlocked through the Jupiter Science Station, and then have to be researched...

Frankly, it's incredibly underwhelming IMO given each ship unlock uses a tradition and I was actually unlocking them after my tech level had already rendered the ships obsolete and, due to some bug, I could not recommission them...

Frankly, I would not waste the Tradition unlock on them, personally...

Yeah, this is why I came to the discussions just know. To find out peoples thoughts. Started a new game, got my first tradition and I can't help but feel that they are a bit underwhelming. You get nothing from the initial unlock and then need to unlock the ones that give the ships after. So basically, you need two unlocks before you get anything out of it. It makes it a tradition sink, in my opinion. Perhaps the unlock should be the Enterprise/Kelvin unlocks, that would at least make it a little more worth it to take the tradition.

For me, right now, I'm at the point where I can unlock my first tradition and I'm on the fence about going with ships of the line, frontier or discovery.

Originally posted by tilarium:

Yeah, this is why I came to the discussions just know. To find out peoples thoughts. Started a new game, got my first tradition and I can't help but feel that they are a bit underwhelming. You get nothing from the initial unlock and then need to unlock the ones that give the ships after. So basically, you need two unlocks before you get anything out of it. It makes it a tradition sink, in my opinion. Perhaps the unlock should be the Enterprise/Kelvin unlocks, that would at least make it a little more worth it to take the tradition.

For me, right now, I'm at the point where I can unlock my first tradition and I'm on the fence about going with ships of the line, frontier or discovery.

I realised they are TIMELOCKED! So if your research is far ahead, they are retired by the time you can select it in the traditions tree!

I am in the year 2350 and I finished the ships of the line tradition and perk, but there is no polaris or excalibur classes. Any tips to resolve this?

Originally posted by TheCommunistChicken:

I am in the year 2350 and I finished the ships of the line tradition and perk, but there is no polaris or excalibur classes. Any tips to resolve this?

Not found one yet,

Originally posted by TheCommunistChicken:

I am in the year 2350 and I finished the ships of the line tradition and perk, but there is no polaris or excalibur classes. Any tips to resolve this?

Same with me. Completed the tradition, got the perk, researched everything in year 2351 but I don't see any sign of the Polaris or Excalibur classes.

Any news there? Anyone can confirm to have built those ships?

I think you can reactivate them in the Starfleet Museum.

Originally posted by The Ghost of Kyiv:

Originally posted by TheCommunistChicken:

I am in the year 2350 and I finished the ships of the line tradition and perk, but there is no polaris or excalibur classes. Any tips to resolve this?

Same with me. Completed the tradition, got the perk, researched everything in year 2351 but I don't see any sign of the Polaris or Excalibur classes.

Any news there? Anyone can confirm to have built those ships?

Can't recall what era they unlock, but as elsid mentioned, you may have already surpassed them technologically and obsoleted them, in which case you should be able to Recommission the design via the Starfleet Museum...

Some of the Ships of the Line designs are a little obscure to find, and you may need to go hunting through the different categories in order to do so...

Thanks for the advise but I checked at Jupiter Station whether there was a technology to research, then at Utopia Planetia & at StarFleet Museum including all ship categories: I just can't find the polaris or excalibur classes.

I'm now in 2371

What year you're in doesn't matter, it's about what era you're in. Era's are not tied to year but to technology. The Polaris is 25th century starship design going from Memory Beta, so my guess is that it's going to require you being in the final era, the Dominion War era. Are you? Can you make Defiant, Prometheus, Vesta and all the other ships from that era?

Yes, already built all of those.

Originally posted by tilarium:

What year you're in doesn't matter, it's about what era you're in. Era's are not tied to year but to technology. The Polaris is 25th century starship design going from Memory Beta, so my guess is that it's going to require you being in the final era, the Dominion War era. Are you? Can you make Defiant, Prometheus, Vesta and all the other ships from that era?

Upon reaching 2390 exactly, I was able to research the Polaris and Excalibur classes within Jupiter Science Station. Seemed it was tied to a year. Nothing else changed at the point in time.

However, both ships were indeed not worth researching. Odyssey class seems slightly superior. I was hoping for more :P

Originally posted by The Ghost of Kyiv:

Originally posted by tilarium:

What year you're in doesn't matter, it's about what era you're in. Era's are not tied to year but to technology. The Polaris is 25th century starship design going from Memory Beta, so my guess is that it's going to require you being in the final era, the Dominion War era. Are you? Can you make Defiant, Prometheus, Vesta and all the other ships from that era?

Upon reaching 2390 exactly, I was able to research the Polaris and Excalibur classes within Jupiter Science Station. Seemed it was tied to a year. Nothing else changed at the point in time.

However, both ships were indeed not worth researching. Odyssey class seems slightly superior. I was hoping for more :P

Yeah, I don't know if it's due to the tech slow down option (selected at the start of the game, which I always select) or just a standard feature now, but ship techs have been unlocking at certain years, inline with their respective eras, for some time for me also...

For example you won't see Discovery era ship techs appearing until around 2220, TOS around 2250-2270, etc, so this would make sense...

try setting your primary research function on jupiter station to engineering. should boost your ships that come up for research. also make sure to research everything on jupiter to unlock next era.