Could you expand the limit on provinces for merchant republics due to more provinces being available in the mediterranean?

Originally posted by Enhanced Mango:

Could you expand the limit on provinces for merchant republics due to more provinces being available in the mediterranean?

Hi Enhanced Mango

Ive not played as a merchant republic in this, but I think I know what you mean. If it is a restriction limited to the specific government, then I think the Dev group should consider an increase to allow more game balance.

Originally posted by Enhanced Mango:

Could you expand the limit on provinces for merchant republics due to more provinces being available in the mediterranean?

Hi. We are a little confused by what you want us to do. Will you be able to clarify this?

JP

@Seamair

Wonderful idea, and eventually it may happen, but it will likely be some time until I can get to it (likely not in the next year).

I *may* release a basic empty mod so that people familiar with modding can more easily manually transfer a save from CK2. But anything more than that is a much bigger endeavour than I have time for right now.

Make Baranya a province (in northern Slavonia, in Croatia) with Hungarian culture (being historical n all)

Originally posted by Unikram:

Make Baranya a province (in northern Slavonia, in Croatia) with Hungarian culture (being historical n all)

Thanks for the suggestion!

We'll be keeping the classic version the same as HR left it, but we'll keep it in mind for our primary project, Beyond the Pale Legacy.

Could you make for Islam something like The Kingdom Of God?

Originally posted by TheKingVampire:

Could you make for Islam something like The Kingdom Of God?

I'm the first to admit that my personal knowledge of the area is lacking, and typically I defer Middle Eastern and Asian matters to the other BtPL members, but my (incomplete) understanding of Islamic theocracy is that there was a decidedly weaker distinction between secular and religious power than the secular/ecclesiastical distinction in Europe.

As I understand it, the Caliph of a Caliphate is considered the ultimate religious authority in Islam in the same manner that the Pope is considered the ultimate religious authority of Catholicism. In this way, I would consider any Caliphate to be something like an Islamic equivalent of the Kingdom of God.

The need for a seperate ecclesiastical tag for Catholics (the Kingdom of God) stems from the strong distinction between normal secular rulers (although sometimes considered to rule by "divine mandate", in Catholicism rulers were never considered to be arbiters or wielders of any sort of divine authority) and ecclesiastical leaders who are members of the church, which unlike in Islam, is never a hereditary title.

Of course, Protestantism represents a considerable break from Catholicism in this particular aspect, with the possibility of the merging of church and state power. For this reason, there are also no Protestant holy kingdoms, as the head of the religion is essentially by definition the ruler of a secular kingdom (though of course it is much more complicated than that).

Please correct me if my understanding is lacking, and I will bring up the topic with the rest of our group, in case the others disagree with me.

I know you dont want more tags ,but...... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duchy_of_St._Sava

Originally posted by madiunicorn:

I know you dont want more tags ,but...... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duchy_of_St._Sava

Oh, that *does* appear to be justified... Though the whole region is rather a confusing mess.... I think it is the mountains, but no one seems to have a good answer for who was independant and what the borders looked like.

Not going to happen in the short term, but we'll have to keep this in mind, thanks!

I downloaded the mod and overall it's nice. I like most new provinces and how some cultures around Europe have been repaired. Yet I see somethings that could be easily improved:

- Labourd province, despite being different than in Vanilla game, is still far from reality. And it's specially important as it doesn't include another Basque mini-province but mainly Occitan areas with a completely unrelated culture.

- The Balearic islands would be better as three different provinces and Andorra would be added too. In comparison with the rest of Europe, the crown of Aragon barely got new provinces.

- It took a long time for Paradox to realise that the Aquitanian culture in EU4 didn't make any sense, yet it's included in this mod...
Gascons are a kind of Occitans, Aquitanians are just another name for Gascons. Adding twice the same culture with two different names doesn't make sense. If you want to add new cultures in France you would add Lorrain (Lorraine doesn't have Burgundian culture).

- The provinces would be better if renamed in their native languages

- Estonian would make more sense in the same group that Finnish and Karelian

- Iberian, French and Italian groups would be better if merged

@Eimeric

I suggest you check out Beyond Typus. This is a mod created by Steam User HR (updated with Paradox stuff to the newest version), he stopped modding so me and Draiocht (plus a team of helpers) have been working to add new content based on his mod. Beyond Typus is this in a different projection, and we are aiming to release in Vanilla projection soon.

This version does not get any new content anymore. In Beyond Typus, the Crown of Aragon has recenly got an overhaul, plus we have reworked Ireland and Scandinavia. We have also worked on; Anatolia, Morocco, Canada, Alaska, Carribean and California. In the works are Arabia, Egypt and the Great Plains area.

We are also working on a culture overhaul add-on which will likely resolve the problems you outline with Aquitain and the Finno-Ugric's.

Thanks for all your suggestions anyway, and I will relay the Labourd ideas to the main team when we next chat.

JP (BtPL Team)

@Eimeric

Just to reiterate what JP said, this mod is (and will remain, unless asked to do otherwise by HR) exactly as HR left it, simply updated to recent Paradox patches.

As for your actual suggestions:

Labourd (and Basque country in general) is a bit of a challenge to balance between messy sovereignty (Is it part of Spain? Is it part of France? Is it something else entirely?) and shifting political borders. But I'll put it on the list of things to look at.

The Balearic Islands are split in Beyond Typus, and more detail is potentially on the table for the Crown of Aragon next update (maybe a 50% chance it will make it in). Obviously I would tend to agree ;)

I agree Aquitanian is... an odd choice. It is also removed in Beyond Typus.

Lorrian is an interesting suggestion for a new French culture. It seems a bit minor to include, though. I'd be interested if you had any more information as to whether or not it had not truely merged with nearby Germanic languages to form the unique (and moribund) dialect we know today, or if it was in the 15th century still simply a langue d'oïl "idiom" like Champenois, Picard, or whathaveyou.

I assume by "The provinces would be better if renamed in their native languages" that you mean more localised naming (London becomes Londres, Regensburg becomes Ratisbonne, etc.)? Or do you mean dialectical varients for all local names (Toulouse becomes Tolosa, Nice becomes Niça, etc.)? Because the former is a very slow work in progress, but I generally agree. The later, on the other hand, becomes a horrible mess very quickly and is not used in vanilla, nor any other mod I am familiar with.

Estonian in the Ugric group makes some sense to me as well, though it is not as clear cut as it would first appear. Regardless, if I recall correctly, that is also in Beyond Typus.

Iberian, French, and Italian being merged is an interesting concept, and not an entirely unhistorical one, but this is a major point of contention. It is important to remember that the culture system is an abstraction and while linguistically related, the groups are seperated into cultural grouping based on not just language, but genetics and traditions as well. Deciding where to draw that line is challenging, but most people seem to want more detail, not less.

Edit - fixed a typo and a portion that got cut off

Make compatible with ET pls~

@williamspurr

Making a mod like this compatible with Extended Timeline would be a massive undertaking, unfortunately, and there are currently no plans to do so.

Sorry to disappoint.