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Lotus Elise 18 Jan, 2021 @ 8:15am
suggestion: thirst
I played with No Water, No Life mod all the time. Now NWNL is dead and I had to activate the thirst in Dubs Bad Hygiene.

To be honest, I consider the hygiene mod is must have for rimworld, I really like it and I always play with it, but the thirst and need to drink are very poorly realized. I'm not talking about the code, but about the fact that turning on or off thirst does not change anything at all. (and in space too (SOS2)).

I think you would find a way to make water a valuable resource and thirst a significant part of the gameplay. Without water, the body dies faster than without food. Because of dirty water, a person will quickly lose health and well-being.

It's interesting to filter and/or boil water. It is interesting to collect drinking water (if the rain is not poisoned with something), or to try to find a well with mineral water. Game in the desert... Water can be dirty, poisoned by any substances or just salty, contain parasites or bacteria. oh...
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Dubwise  [developer] 18 Jan, 2021 @ 9:43am 
the thing is thirst is trivial with this mod because of the huge amounts of water you need for a basic sanitation system, also if i made thirst kill you faster than starvation then your pawns would be dead in half a day, people really dont like that
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Dubwise  [developer] 18 Jan, 2021 @ 10:17am 
oh also make sure you tick on survival mode, it basically forces you to a couple of tiny patches of ground water on the map for wells just like nwnl
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Lotus Elise 18 Jan, 2021 @ 10:44am 
Sound interesting. Thx.
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0 KILLS / 0 OBJ. / 7 DEATHS 18 Jan, 2021 @ 4:33pm 
If you want more realistic balance between starvation and dehydration, just install a mod that makes starvation slower instead. This wouldn't mess with the balance as much, as thirst is an additional need in the first place that already makes the game a TINY bit more difficult. :t0cactuar:
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Lotus Elise 19 Jan, 2021 @ 12:09am 
This is not my option. But I'm not just talking about difficulty, but also about interest.
For example the most exciting part of the NWNL was the animals walked to the watering hole. It's a pity that only colonists want to drink in Dubs Bad Hygiene mod. If the animals also need to drink, the water would be used up much faster.
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0 KILLS / 0 OBJ. / 7 DEATHS 19 Jan, 2021 @ 2:04am 
I mean, think positive, at least we have an option to turn on farting'n'pooping for animals, meaning they can poop everywhere, even in your dining-, bed- or rec room! :happycthulhu:
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Dubwise  [developer] 19 Jan, 2021 @ 4:09am 
well i can shove in a toggle to turn on thirst for animals, dunno what it will do to performance though, also the animals will die if they can't reach any water in deserts and whatnot
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Lotus Elise 19 Jan, 2021 @ 4:41am 
There are several animals that can survive in the desert without water, but these are animals from mods - scorpions or camels ... I don't remember what animals were in vanilla for the desert.
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Dubwise  [developer] 19 Jan, 2021 @ 4:44am 
yeah i can't sit there manually setting up thirst needs for every vanilla and modded animal, thats a bit unreasonable, there's thousands
Last edited by Dubwise; 19 Jan, 2021 @ 4:44am
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Lotus Elise 19 Jan, 2021 @ 4:45am 
May be puddles after rain?
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Dubwise  [developer] 19 Jan, 2021 @ 4:40pm 
yer it just doesn't really work, all you end up with is this ... https://prnt.sc/x8xw7m

And if the only solution is to randomly place water around every biome just so the animals have places to drink from so they spread out, then its a lot better for your cpu fps and tps if you just imagine the animals are managing to find small puddles of water on their own, you can't even see the need bars on non colonist animals anyway

it might be ok for pets and livestock since you have to pen them in usually and there's a lot less of them
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0 KILLS / 0 OBJ. / 7 DEATHS 19 Jan, 2021 @ 5:01pm 
That would be a nightmare performance wise and should, at best, be an experimental, optional feature.
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Lotus Elise 22 Jan, 2021 @ 4:03am 
There is one more thing I wanted to say. The water tower looks very ridiculous on a spaceship (sos2). Can you add a water tank (regular or square). There is also a problem - how to pump water from a small space ship to a large one that cannot land on the planet. I mean a pump for pumping water from one tank to another.
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Dubwise  [developer] 22 Jan, 2021 @ 7:41am 
sorry i dont make things for that mod, and also the life support system has its own water tank anyway
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0 KILLS / 0 OBJ. / 7 DEATHS 22 Jan, 2021 @ 8:00am 
Plus, there's the little water tanks from Dub's Bad Hygiene itself anyways. You can use those if you find huge containers to be unrealistic looking as a temporary storage.
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