How about

Pro on wearer:
+15 health
-100% decloak noise (except Dead Ringer, you will see why later)
Pro Normal Stats:
+15 firing speed
Silent killer: Enemies will not wince or scream when hurt or dead, and will not show in the kill feed.
+50 reload speed
Critical hits when enemy is shot in back
Con on wearer:
+200% Dead Ringer noise
-20% disguise speed (even when disguised)
Con Normal Stats:
-75% clip size (2 shots)
-30% damage on headshots
No random crits

Thats way too op and unrelistic with amount of stats you put there.

Guys keep it undet 5 stats. If you use more it is a lame stupid stat salad. Augh. Sad to watch.

Also this gun has 6 shots per clip. Did you even look at it?

Първоначално публикувано от mishael1:

Guys keep it undet 5 stats. If you use more it is a lame stupid stat salad. Augh. Sad to watch.

Mines just less decloak and revolver kills dont show up kill feed in exchange for no protection while cloak, more damage from fire, and less damage. His is just random junk a kid would make up.

Първоначално публикувано от gavin freedom:

Първоначално публикувано от mishael1:

Guys keep it undet 5 stats. If you use more it is a lame stupid stat salad. Augh. Sad to watch.

Mines just less decloak and revolver kills dont show up kill feed in exchange for no protection while cloak, more damage from fire, and less damage. His is just random junk a kid would make up.

Yeah, yours is not nearly as bad. I still find your r idea a tad too whacky and not fitting neatly enough to the design. Also fire damage vulnerability is replaced by X% damage vulnerability while weapon while active nowadays.

Thinking of a better idea as we speak. I hope we can colaborate on this sir.

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Първоначално публикувано от gavin freedom:

Mines just less decloak and revolver kills dont show up kill feed in exchange for no protection while cloak, more damage from fire, and less damage. His is just random junk a kid would make up.

Yeah, yours is not nearly as bad. I still find your r idea a tad too whacky and not fitting neatly enough to the design. Also fire damage vulnerability is replaced by X% damage vulnerability while weapon while active nowadays.

Thinking of a better idea as we speak. I hope we can colaborate on this sir.

There now i made every con passive stats meaning fire damage and no protection while cloak happen without the having the revolver out.

Първоначално публикувано от gavin freedom:

Първоначално публикувано от mishael1:

Yeah, yours is not nearly as bad. I still find your r idea a tad too whacky and not fitting neatly enough to the design. Also fire damage vulnerability is replaced by X% damage vulnerability while weapon while active nowadays.

Thinking of a better idea as we speak. I hope we can colaborate on this sir.

There now i made every con passive.

Also, the weapon seems underpowered.

Първоначално публикувано от mishael1:

Първоначално публикувано от gavin freedom:

There now i made every con passive.

Also, the weapon seems underpowered.

What do you mean? When spy have the Saharan Spy set came with the additional bonus of less sound volume on set an almost op load with the fact that with yer you steal disguise and show up on kill feed plus, having easy way to gain back cloak with the LEtranger, and in addition the nearly silent decloak made it easy to cloak behind someone and backstab em and gain the disguise making you almost undetectatable. So i put a revolver with less sound volume but has massive weakness to fire seems like good idea.

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Първоначално публикувано от mishael1:

Also, the weapon seems underpowered.

What do you mean? When spy have the Saharan Spy set came with the additional bonus of less sound volume on set an almost op load with the fact that with yer you steal disguise and show up on kill feed plus, having easy way to gain back cloak with the LEtranger, and in addition the nearly silent decloak made it easy to cloak behind someone and backstab em and gain the disguise making you almost undetectatable. So i put a revolver with less sound volume but has massive weakness to fire seems like good idea.

I don't like promiting the sneaky sneaky decloak behind spy.

Meh, until I come up with simething I have no right to talk, so I shall remain silent until then.

Pros:

Silent Killer
No decloak noise
+5% damage on wearer

Cons:

10% Slower firing speed
No random crits

Първоначално публикувано от Tom:

Pros:

Silent Killer
No decloak noise
+5% damage on wearer

Cons:

10% Slower firing speed
No random crits

Op due to dead ringer

What about
+20 percent dmg from behind
-10 percent dmg from the front
Silent Kills and Decloak
-50 percent reload speed
-15 Health while equipped

(EDIT: Maybe no random crits)

Or maybe some Op stats but cant disguise

No sound made by any weapon
50% damage penalty
slows opponents on hit
+10 max helth on kill
-50 max health
Balanced?
No?