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BuBBy 13 Feb, 2019 @ 5:07am
Another developer - revokes all keys "Ghoulboy"
https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/app/752500/discussions/

Just building goodwill with his customers.
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Valkor 13 Feb, 2019 @ 5:11am 
Let me guess...Otaku scam bundle?
talgaby 13 Feb, 2019 @ 5:20am 
Naturally.
LonerD 13 Feb, 2019 @ 5:24am 
Originally posted by Valko:
Let me guess...Otaku scam bundle?
Fanatical "scam" bundle too.
Gogobundle "scam" bundle too.
All bundles are "scam" when developer are scammer.
Last edited by LonerD; 13 Feb, 2019 @ 5:49am
Michel Baie 13 Feb, 2019 @ 5:25am 
Originally posted by Valko:
Let me guess...Otaku scam bundle?

Nice try, but apparently it's Fanatical this time.
As for which side is scamming which one, it's too early to know.
Valkor 13 Feb, 2019 @ 5:32am 
Well, in this case I would believe in Fanatical :B1:
Michel Baie 13 Feb, 2019 @ 5:35am 
I'm betting :
"Dev wrongly revocked Fanatical bundle keys when wanting to revoke Otakubundle's ones."

BTW, the game doubled its price tag between jan 3 and feb 12 for no apparent reason.
https://steamdb.info/app/752500/
Last edited by Michel Baie; 13 Feb, 2019 @ 5:55am
Originally posted by Hibachi:
Originally posted by Valko:
Let me guess...Otaku scam bundle?

Nice try, but apparently it's Fanatical this time.
As for which side is scamming which one, it's too early to know.


It's 100% the developer at fault based on the specifics we know at this point.

That said, it's actually ALWAYS the developer at fault when keys get revoked from bundles, because they are the party fundamentally abusing a safeguard against genuine theft in order to resolve internal business disputes far beyond the realm of customer knowledge and responsibility. Whether they were paid or not, they engaged in a contract allowing those keys to be bundled to customers in their own contracts that those customers would and could only know was authorized by them, yet now they seek to destroy that property due to difficulties recovering their agreed upon accounts receivable from the distributor.

People like to pretend its stolen property (though even that has an official process for recovery), but the intended contractual sale outright renders it an absurd analogy, and means we're talking the same contract law applicable across the rest of the economy. No other aspect of society operates in a way holding end-users accountable for supplier/distributor non-payment issues. Customers aren't even privy to those inner-workings in the first place, and thus impossible of genuinely making an informed decision in the first place. Meanwhile that's an obscene burden of responsibility to end customers for negligible transactions while principle parties are absolved responsibility for material business decisions entirely at their own discretion. It's the same level of accountability faced by everyone else in traditional enterprises, who lack that magic "destroy" button even in cases of genuine theft which represent actual physical lost value. Yet the very existence of that technological ability to shift the burden is somehow enough to convince people its acceptable for those digital enterprises to deploy the "because I say so" button at the expense of those weakest parties in lieu of ever having to enforce their original contracts via the same exact means as everyone else.

It's an absurd practice that's only persists because its happening on such a small level in a niche market over matters of little concern, and we haven't seen the high-water mark yet before the wave rolls back with vengeance. We're going to start seeing that as we shift from issues of "was/wasn't paid" to "was paid, but what can you do about it chumps", however, even if could magically apply an absolute pure-strain version (only occurring where accounts promised paid genuinely don't end up getting paid) of this shifted-burden with any real uniformity across widespread industry then you still end up with widespread economic destabilization. We cease to own anything when someone else holds that much control past the point of sale and transfer of rights however many times over. The acquisition of any given object isn't a known legal point of sale, but requires knowing every legal point of sale existing beforehand and ensuring that there's no possible accounts receivable (among other contentious issues) which could be used to rationalize why someone 10 transactions earlier might get to hit a button rendering you absolutely nothing and with no means of recover or compensation.



Originally posted by Hibachi:
I'm betting :
"Dev wrongly revocked Fanatical bundle keys when wanting to revoke Otakubundle's ones."

BTW, the game doubled its price tag between jan 3 and feb 12 for no apparent reason.
https://steamdb.info/app/752500/

These links were posted on steamgifts and might shed some light on it
https://www.perfectly-nintendo.com/ghoulboy-retro-action-platformer-releasing-this-week-on-nintendo-switch/
https://www.playstationlifestyle.net/2019/02/11/ghoulboy-ps-vita-ps4-physical-release-announced/
https://gematsu.com/2019/02/ghoulboy-for-ps4-ps-vita-limited-run-physical-edition-announced
Last edited by ReptilianWorldOrder; 13 Feb, 2019 @ 8:26am
Michel Baie 13 Feb, 2019 @ 8:51am 
Point taken, and thank you for the links.
Aydaylin 3 Apr, 2019 @ 12:23pm 
Thanks for the curator's review... instead of buying it, I've set all his games to ignore. You may want, though, to update it, as there is newer and even more damming video posted on YT by the same author: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z7K6XUF0k08
Mellow_Online1 3 Apr, 2019 @ 12:25pm 
Originally posted by Aydaylin:
Thanks for the curator's review... instead of buying it, I've set all his games to ignore. You may want, though, to update it, as there is newer and even more damming video posted on YT by the same author: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z7K6XUF0k08

Due to the curation set up, we're only able to place one link in each curator review. We can include a second link but at the expense of a more messy looking curation.

I'll be sticking with only the first video posting. Apologies.
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