You know, in my experience, the exact other way around happens, I even took some time to realize the opening post isn't full of sarcasm. When RED destroyd the Tank immediatelly after it captures the first point on Frontier, the Giant can consider itself DEAD. BLU's new spawn being near the cash means BLU's new spawn is near a total RED Crit-fest. It takes only two combat cappable classes (and some resource management) to keep BLU totally stuck on spawn, and once the Giant spawns everyone gets the cash and blitzkrieg at him. Even the most combat cappable Giants are likely to get curb-stomped on the spot (after all, the Medic is shileding the team).

All that said, bp's points are solid. I actually agree with Linkisher, while the Crit-cash has important purposes, it's better to change the timers so its effects are always gone once the Giant is into play. With the current system, if the Tank gets destroyed immediatelly after it caps a point, it will unbalance the game to either of the teams depending on how many people are alive on the defending team.

Thanks, linux!

Yes. The Heavy doesn't literally yell "Unused Giant Heavy spawning sound effect", which is the unused sound effect in question?

Does he yell anything at all?

Thanks, doc! I hope someone knows Giant Scout and Giant Heavy's sounds.

Also, yeah, as I said, even though I barely understands what they say, it does manage to be awesome.

Just for curiosity. I swear I'm unable to understand most of them by myself, some have a deep voice and most TF2 lines have a funny accent that, combined with the fact I'm not a native English speaker and the fact the lines are robotic in nature, makes some of them just plain gibberish. Though it manages to be awesome anyway <_<

I know that the Giant Rapid Fire Huntsman yells "I told ya sniping was a good job!".

... I don't get it, did you bump an old topic to say the discussion is gone? Uuh, why didn't you just leave it be?

Thanks, Banshee! Well, now it's hopefully harder to see the majority of the server not agreeing on the map choice.

It would be cool if more Giants had their own metal supply. Currently, only the Giant Engineer can help other Engineers upgrade their buildings, which is actually pointless most of the time, since the Giant Engineer's buffed buildings generally means no other Engineer is required at all (expect PLR). I think the Major League Scout should have a supply of 200 Metal and be able to hit buildings with his Bat to upgrade them. Surely, it will look VERY out of place to see a Scout help a building, but since not he's only a general support giant, he also actually reduces spawn time for the rest of the team while on the map, I think he should have the ability to help set up a Teleporter.

Just a suggestion.

Thanks for considering my suggestion, Banshee. I'm still not sure if this can be implemented with TF2's stock map voting system, the servers that uses this two-round idea also use a custom voting system (at least those I know of), which comes with a big downside of voting with numbers keys instead of F# keys, so accidental votes are bound to happen when someone wants to change weapons.

I personally think that this downside is worth stopping the scenario where Hightower wins by ~25% followed by over half the server breaking into a flame war and then, in the third round of Hightower, the server becomes quite empty until maps finally change...

This whole two-round should avoid having the server vote on a map then suddenly emptying itself. I mean, AT LEAST 50% of the server voted for the winning map, so, even if everyone else leaves (a scenarion that is already quite rare), it won't take too long for more people to join, I guess.