of course with limited supply price always rises given the demand. Though in this case with the OS (linux) being free just costing memory and time to install i dont think it will reach the same level as buds. buds were one of the first items to have a particle effect and i think the community back then wasnt aware of their future value. nowadays everyone and their uncle are farming the tuxes, through legit channels or exploits.

We will see, I guess.
Would be a real bummer for farmers if the Tux farmed with F2P accounts remained untradable.

Does anyone know if the drops you get while F2P become tradable once you upgrade to premium?
If that is the case and the Tux would remained untradable while F2P but became tradable after upgrading to premium, you'd have to invest 2-3 Keys to just get 1 more Tux into the market.

That's how I would show my middle finger to farmers, if I was Valve.

Originally posted by Uranium235:

We will see, I guess.
Would be a real bummer for farmers if the Tux farmed with F2P accounts remained untradable.

Does anyone know if the drops you get while F2P become tradable once you upgrade to premium?
If that is the case and the Tux would remained untradable while F2P but became tradable after upgrading to premium, you'd have to invest 2-3 Keys to just get 1 more Tux into the market.

That's how I would show my middle finger to farmers, if I was Valve.

items will be tradeable after if you use the premium gift.

but valve would be happy if the Tuxx is valuable, becouse more ppl will buy keys.

It'll be just like genuines, but easier, it won't be the new buds in anyway because it will drop in price when it becomes tradeable, like all genuines, it is easily obtainable with no money, and there are more people in tf2 now, so there will be a lot of them.

The interesting question is whether you can trade them from F2P without upgrading to premium.
The wiki says that you can trade some misc items from F2P, so this could be one of those exceptions. But who knows...

About the whole "linux is easy to get" thing
Sure, yeah its free and easy but people are goddurn lazy

http://tf2stats.net/item/Earbuds/143/ vs http://tf2stats.net/item/Tux/1011/
they are gonna be rare :3

Originally posted by SCM Lord Harlowe Hoggins Maw™:

About the whole "linux is easy to get" thing
Sure, yeah its free and easy but people are goddurn lazy

http://tf2stats.net/item/Earbuds/143/ vs http://tf2stats.net/item/Tux/1011/
they are gonna be rare :3

Bill's and Earbuds are among the most common items in the game and should never be used as a benchmark for rarity. The reason behind their value has absolutely nothing to do with being rare.

ppl thought the same about the Genuine Faerie Solitaire Pin, and now what? 1-2 ref, but some retard still think its worth more and want buds for that...

Originally posted by A Distinctive Lack of Vincent:

Bill's and Earbuds are among the most common items in the game and should never be used as a benchmark for rarity. The reason behind their value has absolutely nothing to do with being rare.

I always laugh at people who use that to prove a point. "There are half as many Potato Hats as buds, my asking price 2 buds."

Anyway, the tux is a promo item and will definitely go up in value. My guess is it will reach 2-4 keys in a years time or more.

Originally posted by Nobel Idle:

of course with limited supply price always rises given the demand. Though in this case with the OS (linux) being free just costing memory and time to install i dont think it will reach the same level as buds. buds were one of the first items to have a particle effect and i think the community back then wasnt aware of their future value. nowadays everyone and their uncle are farming the tuxes, through legit channels or exploits.

not really, special cases where people had no idea things would become valuable were the bills and buds. you see the difference between 2011 and 2012 festives, once the gold rush is on, the stuff is no longer valuable, now 2012 festives are trash, and the robot chicken hat is no more than 1.33 ref.

Originally posted by Omgwtfbbqstfu™:

Originally posted by Nobel Idle:

of course with limited supply price always rises given the demand. Though in this case with the OS (linux) being free just costing memory and time to install i dont think it will reach the same level as buds. buds were one of the first items to have a particle effect and i think the community back then wasnt aware of their future value. nowadays everyone and their uncle are farming the tuxes, through legit channels or exploits.

not really, special cases where people had no idea things would become valuable were the bills and buds. you see the difference between 2011 and 2012 festives, once the gold rush is on, the stuff is no longer valuable, now 2012 festives are trash, and the robot chicken hat is no more than 1.33 ref.

im not sure what youre "not really[ing]" to. It sounds like youre saying that the tux wont be as valuable (which i agree with?). If youre responding to my first sentence about price rise with limited supply, its qualified with the second part about demand.

Sorry if im not reading things clearly, im pretty tired this week. :p

Originally posted by Nobel Idle:

Originally posted by Omgwtfbbqstfu™:

not really, special cases where people had no idea things would become valuable were the bills and buds. you see the difference between 2011 and 2012 festives, once the gold rush is on, the stuff is no longer valuable, now 2012 festives are trash, and the robot chicken hat is no more than 1.33 ref.

im not sure what youre "not really[ing]" to. It sounds like youre saying that the tux wont be as valuable (which i agree with?). If youre responding to my first sentence about price rise with limited supply, its qualified with the second part about demand.

Sorry if im not reading things clearly, im pretty tired this week. :p

well supply and demand is arbitrary in tf2, there are like a hundred thousand or more bills caps after all. i'm sure some craft hats are pretty rare at this point, people just don't want the ugly things and so they remain worthless. i think the tux comes after the cat was out of the bag, so it will never be rare or sought after.

Think about Buds. You get them the same way, but Linux is free. For F2P users, they could get the Tux, wait a while until it become valuable, and get themselves a premium upgrade kit and more.

yea but you could say that about lots of stuff, the robot chicken hat is barely worth anything, stuff tends to get valuable if people didnt know they might be at the time...

Originally posted by Blah357:

Think about Buds. You get them the same way, but Linux is free. For F2P users, they could get the Tux, wait a while until it become valuable, and get themselves a premium upgrade kit and more.

the trade and scam/hack community wasnt this big like now.