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dayhappy 21 Oct, 2012 @ 1:14am
Guys, I need help with this, need to talk about Steamrep.
So along time ago (more than a year), I was reported as a scammer, by a random trader who I was able to piss off. (not going into that) So he did a fake chat with his friend, he used my name and profile picture to make a chat where it would appear that I was actually the one who was talking in the chat. And ofcourse, all that was needed to get me marked as a scammer on Steamrep was a stupid JPEG image and the admins instantly banned me. I considered it as a joke at the time.

At first I didn't care about this atall, since I was not into trading at the time, but the more and more i'm on Outpost now, the more people have noticed that i'm marked as a scammer on Steamrep, when I haven't scammed a single person in TF2. So my trades have been getting reported and i'm getting messages that I might get banned.

I need some help with this because I take TF2 trading seriously and am trying to trade upto more valuable items, and this non-sense is really a pain in the ass for me at the moment.

I need help with this, can someone tell me what I can do about this? To get the tag off my Steamrep? Anything? It's becoming hard to handle, and i'm afraid I might get banned from Outpost because of this bs. Any help will be greatly appreciated.
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His Wardship 21 Oct, 2012 @ 3:04am 
Well, I've just hopped over to your SR profile, and you are tagged as a RAWR and UHC scammer, that means you will have to appeal to RAWR and UHC, look up their appeal procedure, and ask what proof you would need to provide.

The appeal may take a while to process, so you would need to be patient.
Mattie! 22 Oct, 2012 @ 9:37am 
As mentioned above, you'd want to follow-up with RAWR and UTC. It sounds like there are offenses listed for receiving a HOUWAR and never paying as well as a topic about a scam for $250 worth of items. It's been a year and a half since you were banned for that, and it's surprising you wouldn't appeal before now if stealing hundreds of dollars of items wasn't something you'd actually do.
dayhappy 22 Oct, 2012 @ 10:29am 
Lol, I never actually knew what I was banned for, I just remember that some random jackass made a fake thread about me and like days later I was banned for that. Can you give me a link?
Like I said, I didn't give a single fuck about getting reported at the time, since I didn't do any trading at the time, so I really couldn't care less, but now its becoming a pain in the ass.
dayhappy 22 Oct, 2012 @ 12:40pm 
Can someone add me to help me with this? I still want to continue trading but this bs got in the way.
dayhappy 22 Oct, 2012 @ 3:08pm 
Thanks for your help Mattie, I will get right on that. But I swear on Gaben's grave I have never scammed anyone on TF2.
So somehow some random trader went out thier way to frame u. " the admins instantly banned me. I considered it as a joke at the time." So u get banned and laugh it off. Oh yea, you sound very innocent to me.

Even if u weren't 'into trading", it makes no sense why you'd shrug off a ban by admins and some random goin out their way to frame u. I'd be willing to bet you hoped enough time passed to be able to win appeal through simple denial. I hope to hear updates.

If somehow u were framed, the impersonator should get banned. If it pics are not modified, I hope u rot in scammer purgatory
His Wardship 23 Oct, 2012 @ 11:09am 
Originally posted by a tasty serving of:
If it pics are not modified, I hope u rot in scammer purgatory

What a pleasant outlook.
EpicRice 23 Oct, 2012 @ 2:56pm 
You could drop $5 in for a new account, otherwise your going to have to file an appeal which can take forever, as well as you'll need a good evidence and good statement. If the person impersonated you, they probably used steam's name change method and have a slightly different version of your name, you can find this out by finding what letter they changed.

Example: My username is EpicRice
Someone changes their name to EpicRlce

The i in Rice is changed with an 'l', since you can't have 2 people with the exact same username on steam. If you can figured out what letter they changed, you can go to your 'This user is also known by...' which shows the history of anytime you've changed your name to something else. You can use this for evidence since the impersonator's name shouldn't be in the known by history.

If the fourm is dead, then theres no way to track it through that, and i'm also assuming you can't find the steam chat. Did you ever trade with him? Steam keeps a record of all trades done with someone, you could try to track him through that. Go through your own computer history And see if you could find a post, or a fourm that you forgot about it that might give you a lead to the guy who framed you.

As to Mr. ''rot in scammer purgatory'', if someone restricted you from using pink floor tiles, would you really give a shit? Would you drag out appeals and just waste time and effort on something you really don't care about? Ton of other colours to pink for floor tiles. Oh wait, your girlfriend wants pink floor titles....

Theres a ton of games in the world, if you got banned in a random RPG game that you don't even bother to play, why would you go through the ban effort?
dayhappy 23 Oct, 2012 @ 3:28pm 
Originally posted by EpicRice:

Theres a ton of games in the world, if you got banned in a random RPG game that you don't even bother to play, why would you go through the ban effort?

Finally someone who is smart enough to understand the simplest idea ever.
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dayhappy 23 Oct, 2012 @ 3:40pm 
Originally posted by EpicRice:
You could drop $5 in for a new account, otherwise your going to have to file an appeal which can take forever, as well as you'll need a good evidence and good statement. If the person impersonated you, they probably used steam's name change method and have a slightly different version of your name, you can find this out by finding what letter they changed.

Well I do know that the appeals are long and painful, and a lot of the times, the appeal gets declined. And I honestly dont have much hope for this appeal thing since this all happened so long ago. The person who did this in the first place, is not in my trading history, since there was no Steam Trading at the time. There was only TF2 Trading. I dont have almost any evidence, all I can say is my side of the story on this matter.

And what do you mean 5$? Like make a completely new account on Steam and pay 5$ on Mannco store to get my trading priviliges back? Or do I have to give 5$ to the owner of Outpost or something?

Also, I get one appeal chance from Outpost, but I dont know if im going to get unbanned, since I dont actually have any evidence on the matter. I have been doing alot of trading for the past few months, and have gathered -some- +rep... But I dont think its enough for admins to think im innocent. All I want is to get back on Outpost and do legit trades again.
EpicRice 23 Oct, 2012 @ 4:10pm 
What kinds of trades are you doing? Unusual, money, promotional? If your doing those 2 then you definately need good Rep and you CAN NOT be marked as a scammer, these are big major trades that require alot of trust and no room for errors (Trades can go from $20 to a few hundred)

If your doing regular hat/misc trading+ Weapons trading, then you won't need alot of Rep, however that "+Rep" on your profile is always good for 1st impressons. If your banned or marked as a scammer on Outpost, you need to really clean that up, Outpost is by far #1 trading site imo because of it's diversity in trading (Dota, SK, Tf2, Game, Money), its fame, and good for finding trades or setting one up.

IF you are banned on Outpost you need to do anything in your power to get an appeal or set your case up. You should try to find out when you marked a scammer (1 year ago, 6 months, 2 years) and any evidence. You should try to appeal for a review since theres doesn't seem to be any 'solid' proof against you other then being marked a scammer a year back. Your marked a scammer but unless theres any real concrete evidence against you, if you make your case with a plea, they will hopefully let you off (Outpost, SourceREP, Etc.) At the very least, you should try to get an appeal for Outpost. You can drop $5 (Buy $5 on manco for Pay-to-play) Which will let you trade against with a fresh start. BE WARNED, if you trade on Outpost using an alt for a banned account, you may be violating Outpost's policy/rule against using alt accounts/multi for a banned account. If you do this though, just becareful, you might end up losing $5 and having 2 banned accounts marked as a scammer(s). Multi accounts however, are not against any policy, many people have multi accounts for Idling to get 2x the items in tf2, some people have 5 or even 10. So even if you don't trade enough that you don't want to put that $5 in, it does double your tf2 item drops.
dayhappy 23 Oct, 2012 @ 4:57pm 
Originally posted by EpicRice:
What kinds of trades are you doing? Unusual, money, promotional? If your doing those 2 then you definately need good Rep and you CAN NOT be marked as a scammer, these are big major trades that require alot of trust and no room for errors (Trades can go from $20 to a few hundred)

If your doing regular hat/misc trading+ Weapons trading, then you won't need alot of Rep, however that "+Rep" on your profile is always good for 1st impressons. If your banned or marked as a scammer on Outpost, you need to really clean that up, Outpost is by far #1 trading site imo because of it's diversity in trading (Dota, SK, Tf2, Game, Money), its fame, and good for finding trades or setting one up.

Thanks alot of your help. I'm only doing regular hat trades, the value usually never go over 4-5 keys. Just doing regular hat/strange weapon/item trades, I don't have any unusuals, I don't have any verified paypal ( I can't do any online buying atall, since I am under 18, and where im from, you need to be over 18 to be able to make online transactions. )

I am just a regular TF2 trader and got into it a few months ago. But I am innocent if you do believe that, even though everyone can say they are innocent, I still believe the simple quote that states '' Everyone is innocent until proven guilty ''. But like Mattie a few posts back noted, he showed me a few ban logs, where I was accused of scamming 250 $ and a HOUWAR. Those are some pretty steep and serious accusations, and I truly am curious right now how they could just mark me as a scammer for such a serious crime. I truly wonder if they did any investigation or just take the easy way, being '' Oh, it seems this guy really is a scammer, well lets ban him then. '' I honestly don't know how much ''evidence'' does it need to get you banned, but it sure as hell worked on me I guess.

But I mean, I have no clue about the thread where I was even reported from, let alone if it even exists anymore. So here comes the question, can I even be guilty anymore where there are only a few reports saying that I scammed some cash and HOUWAR? At the time I didnt even know what a HOUWAR was. And all I was banned for from Outpost was my Steamrep+ page, link here : http://gyazo.com/4bd347ffebc454195085adf73afa54ca . I even wonder if the admin just checked my Steamrep page and just instantly decided to ban me cause of that, without doing 0 backround check. I don't know, but I just think all of these investigations and banning are sloppy and lazy. Yeah, they are probably being flooded with reports, but im sure if they did a good checkup on my account and my trading, they would see that im not doing anything illegal or scam related.
Last edited by dayhappy; 23 Oct, 2012 @ 4:58pm
dayhappy 23 Oct, 2012 @ 5:00pm 
I can still trade on TF2TP.com, but it just doesen't feel the same there, I have done tons of trades on Outpost and hundreds of offers. Many many hours have been put into my trades and Outpost in general. It just feels weird going away from that site and switching to another one.
JimothyJohn 24 Oct, 2012 @ 4:15am 
Originally posted by EpicRice:
Example: My username is EpicRice
Someone changes their name to EpicRlce

The i in Rice is changed with an 'l', since you can't have 2 people with the exact same username on steam. If you can figured out what letter they changed,


You can have two people with the exact same name on steam. Its interchangeable at anytime. Its the custom URL that cannot be identical.




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Date Posted: 21 Oct, 2012 @ 1:14am
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