The items have a "price" because we, the community gives them that "price". You keep saying that there is a price of an item clearly defined and that people would be crazy not to sell it at that price. your example in your OP with the fast learner at 5.33, who is making that price in refined? The community. if everyone wants to only pay 3.33 then the price will shift to match the accepted "value" that buyers are willing to pay. Buyers will always want to buy it at the lowest point and sellers want to sell at the highest point. To you it may seem like lowballing, but there is a difference between "speadsheet/whatever value" verses actual market price.

While its true that things in the store have a real world defined value in currency, i still would have to say that majority of traders dont buy store bought items other than keys. Store prices on items dont translate to a set value (sorta), and even if they did it wouldnt be as efficient in the conversion from store bought items to value.

its just a matter of how much patience a person has.

Originally posted by deagle_King:

Originally posted by Champelliot:

People always make the mistake of thinking that items have prices.
No item has a price, or any form of a value

You're way off on both counts.
1. Items have prices - in the in-game stores for both TF2 and Dota 2.
2. Items most definitely have value, otherwise they wouldn't be traded for.
Furthermore, items that are not being sold in the store have an even greater value.

Why don't you learn something about digital content before you start rambling nonsense?

I see where you are coming from, but in 99% of trading noone cares about store prices of an item. You miss the point Champ is making in that the market we exist in do have value, but its set by the community. Items in tf2 have no official value. its up to the supply and demand.

no everything looks fine to me, try reloading the page.

edit: prob just a temp hiccup. glad its working again.

So everything working now?

your profile is private. Change it to public and try again.

probably just lag and multiple attempts to send the information results in a double post.

Just an update and fyi. Its been found that the user had 2 alts impersonating Mattie! and is now marked as a scammer on SR for impersonation.

http://forums.steamrep.com/threads/76561198076140320-steady.20174/

I agree that its always nice to guide a person to the answer rather than just report them, but most of the time mods or admins do not have time to answer to each request individually. If the community could come together and help those who arent as savvy with Steam it would benefit everyone over all. Small instances of good will grow into big positive changes : )

Well hopefully we can change the way that people behave on the site. being polite and having manners is something i wish was instilled in everyone.

If anything a mod would give a short temp ban or a warning. Wouldnt take too much time to do fmpov.

Originally posted by ☆¸.•*Zero Beat*•. ¸☆:

Isn't teamviewer a program that can cause two people to look at the same screen and do actions such as delete files?

I believe team view is used by IT/computer techs to share screens and complete actions on a clients computer. It has been used to take over an unsuspecting person's computer and install malicious files and in the world of TF2, scam people by the scammer trading himself while in control of the victims computer. Its never wise to relinquish access to your computer unless you are absolutely sure that it is an official source.