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$20 down the drain...

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the legendary santag spoke, sup

Please note: eric has significant difficulties accepting criticism, this is well documented from his rage driven outbursts at people "being mean" to him by pointing out things he is doing wrong, he isn't worth wasting the time reasoning with, just talk to brian or vast if you want a dev.

oh god this map turned into a chat itself. anyway epic level.

A final note, i think you streams also do harm to this development as well. Not entirely but in terms of always saying 'maybe'. So it fudged what was being worked on with maybes and possibilities that allowed people to imagine what the released project might be. And I guess that's the entire problem.

I have to stress this, I have nothing against you as a person. I think for the most part you made some neat ideas. But my criticisms or judgments are not and should never be considered a slight against you.

I care. And you seem to think i care the least.

I don't think it is worth $20 IF you are only using 1 aspect of the game. I think that is fair. That is the only comment I've ever made about the game. I also said the same when it was less and you had less to show.


Well its too late for that sort of roadmap as the plans for release seem to be ch5/localization/porting. I only speculate what the impression of people would be if people knew ch5 would be the last chapter before release? Usually that is a key feature in buying a EA game. Looking what the game will have when its released. Mainly because there are no guarantees there will be more content added after release.

I suppose my argument comes down to now that it's not that we need a roadmap its more that we needed one. The past is past. But it still sends ripples to the outcome of the present.

Sure, feel free to tell people that you don't think it's worth $20.
There are many people out there with opinions, and you are entitled to yours.

Our development process don't support the sort of public roadmap you wish we had. Sorry if that is disappointing.

As I mentioned before, anyone is welcome to ask questions about our plans and to contribute ideas and opinions every day in real time on Twitch as well as in the forum. :)

I really do consider it dishonest to sell them the game just because I play it. Just like for you to tell them to buy it because you are making it. We both profit if they buy it. But in the end I'm not here to conciously or unconciously mislead someone. I want to make sure they make an educated decision. So if they are asking me in my stream I will of course answer them with the best of my ability.

The $20 as a refund was your intent, maybe. But as I understand I never asked for a refund but accepted the conditions of $20 for "not asking for a roadmap anymore". With that in mind, it might have first been a refund but it quickly became a bribe/payment to stop asking for something.

About the others, what I was trying to explain in discord. Kids who aren't exactly major money earners come to me asking if they should buy it. I can't say, well i play for 1k hours cuz i make money streaming so you should. That would be insane. I ask them what they enjoy about the game and then I explain what the game offers and that there is no promise any of those features to be expanded upon in the short term. Short term being 6 months. So I'd suggest to wait for another update and buy a game they will fully enjoy now and not buy a game that's still in development that has no clear path of a promised feature list.

Well as I tried to say, Its not about me but about others. I play the game for 1000 hours not because I straight out enjoy it but because I earn money and have a community built around this game. If I wasn't streaming I would have never bought this game. Although, I admit that would be a mistake as I do think the story is interesting enough. But overall not interesting enough for $20. Maybe $5-10. I just don't utilize LBS/Map Tools. And as said I only utilize twitch mode because i stream. If I wasn't streaming , then I wouldn't be using twitch mode and that would delete about 99% of my play time hours.