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@zyx I think that is a good solution. Thank you!

@ Kai I have (more-or-less) copied the values from @ robs074 's monuments mod. The posters now cost more, and give the same bonus values as the closest comparable monuments from this other mod.

The lack of consistency among vanilla buildings (or a lack of clear reasoning) is a major source of frustration. I hope the devs eventually address this.

@zyx I agree with your assessment that the actual values are a difficult question. Perhaps a better suggestion would be to find a niche for the posters, since right now they are strictly better than the "small" vanilla alternatives.

@ Kai To be honest: when I created this mod, I had no idea what the reasonable values were, so I merely toned down the values set by BORO in his original mod. (Modding documentation for WR:SR being famously useless.)

But what the values ought to be is a difficult question. The vanilla monuments appear to have arbitrary and kinda nonsensical values, as shown in the below table.

Large Soviet Emblem
Bonus : +2.8%
Range : 145m
Height : 19.21m
Volume : 747.29m³
Bonus ÷ Range : 0.019%
Bonus ÷ Height : 0.1458%
Bonus ÷ Volume : 0.0037%

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Small Soviet Emblem
Bonus : +2.2%
Range : 65m
Height : 10.80m
Volume : 167.71m³
Bonus ÷ Range : 0.033%
Bonus ÷ Height : 0.2037%
Bonus ÷ Volume : 0.0131%

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Hammer and Sickle Monument
Bonus : +2.6%
Range : 150m
Height : 24.85m
Volume : 914.74m³
Bonus ÷ Range : 0.017%
Bonus ÷ Height : 0.1046%
Bonus ÷ Volume : 0.0028%

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Red Star Monument
Bonus : +5.2%
Range : 415m
Height : 30.23m
Volume : 758.80m³
Bonus ÷ Range : 0.012%
Bonus ÷ Height : 0.1720%
Bonus ÷ Volume : 0.0068%

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Big Lenin Statue
Bonus : +4.5%
Range : 90m
Height : 24.20m
Volume : 313.23m³
Bonus ÷ Range : 0.05%
Bonus ÷ Height : 0.1859%
Bonus ÷ Volume : 0.0143%

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Small Lenin Statue
Bonus : +2.4%
Range : 70m
Height : 13.41m
Volume : 75.11m³
Bonus ÷ Range : 0.03%
Bonus ÷ Height : 0.1790%
Bonus ÷ Volume : 0.0319%

@ Kai There appears to be no consistent measure for either a bonus-to-range proportion or a bonus-to-building-volume proportion. Some buildings are consistent, like the Large Soviet Emblem and Hammer and Sickle Monument. Maybe I'm bad at numerical analysis, but I can't see a pattern that includes all buildings. (The Red Star monument is particularly egregious, having both a range and bonus over twice that of the Hammer and Sickle Monument, but being less volumous and only slightly taller.)

In @ robs074 's Small Monuments (Workshop Item 2723573163) mod, we find monuments that have values which are at least internally consistent, but said values are still much higher than what you propose.

@ Kai I am of the opinion that building cost is an unimportant factor. The cost of materials for buildings like these (including recurring reconstruction) quickly becomes unimportant, even in small economies. The bonus given is much, much more important.

The values do need to be changed, but I don't know how to proceed. I need to think about it.

Most likely, I'll do some math on @ robs074 's values and go from there.

This is one of the best mods on the workshop. Have you considered reducing the loyalty bonus? Right now, the poster is about 1/4 the cost of the cheapest vanilla monument but provides significantly more loyalty. Something like 65m distance and a .4-.6% bonus would make a little more sense.

@ Rouhmann Right?

You'd think that the developers would mention that skins work for both vehicles and buildings in the tutorials. Such as it is, the tutorials don't even explain how anything works; they kinda just tell you to do stuff blindly.