Total War: ROME II - Emperor Edition

Total War: ROME II - Emperor Edition

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C&D's Greek Marines

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- Also included in the GREEKS megapack. Disabling is not required but suggested.

Imagine Thureos Spears with a twist and a slight buff, with Whip and Shieldwall (not sure about this, tbh). Then, imagine them on a warship with the wind flowing between their helmets' plumes, while the rowers do what rowers do (row, possibly), and there is all sort of nautical stuff happening around them. Yeah, neat.

Cough.

CRUNCH:
As said, they are basically Thureophoroi with a different job definition, but still Greeks with an oval shield, a medium armor and a spear. You can't mess around much, it's a test-proven combo. On land, they still run like hell (no rapid advance though) and can take a punch or two.
Being naval units, they can only be recruited in the docks. Athens can recruit tetreres from the military dock II and tower hexaremes from the dock III (at the same time with the thorax hexaremes, but with extra dakka and hitpoints); Rhodes can instead get them on board of Trihemiolie from the trade port II (that one that makes lots of moneyz). There is no actual land unit to be recruited.
Thus, they're extremely simple to recruit and can form up an effective raiding/amphibious force before you can spam thorax hexaremes.

FLUFF:
After the siege of Tyros (332bC) the Mediterrean naval powers developed heavier and heavier ships; the days of the ramming triremes were over, in favor of tetreres and penteres with the odd hexareme or even larger ships, culminating and ending with the Battle of Actium (31bC), where multiple hepteres or octeres were deployed.
Tactics were not about ramming the enemy, even if these warships still could do that quite efficiently, but about boarding with decent sized marine forces. Whereas the athenian triremes that won at Salamis deployed about 10 or 20 hoplites, the average tetreres had 75 marines, up to 120 on bigger ships.
Even in their decline, Athens intended to build a fleet of 200 tetreres* and Rhodes apparently could field an effective flotilla of their loved trihemiolias.
*I have no idea what happened to that commission.

Enjoy!

It is working with a few unit mods from the workshop and some homebrewed others, I have no idea if it is going to crash with Radious' etc.
Anyhing wrong with the mod, just let me know and I'll, uhm, try and beat it with a stick until it works again.

Special thanks to Sebidee for his Template and Tutorial.

P.S.: No, I'm not giving them corinthian helmets.

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(gamewise irrelevant) KNOWN ISSUES:
- the Tower Hexareme sports flashy roman scuta on the flanks. I can't do anything about that, as far as I know the Romans have the only Tower Hexareme and scuta come with it. Please let me know if I missed something.
- The Trihemiolia is coded as a missile carrier, thus you will find the rhodian ship among the support ship in custom battle. They are still perfectly able to ram and board.
15 Comments
tylerheffner1 13 Oct, 2023 @ 6:00am 
what version of the game do i have to use this with as it is out of date fir the current one
Praetorian_INTP 5 Nov, 2017 @ 8:15am 
"even though sparta defeated them in the peplo war" - learn some history, pal. "Sparta" (actually: pelopponesian league...!) did not win against "Athens" (actually: Attican League (for some odd reason wiki calls it "Delian league"; I don't think that is consistent with Thukydides...); but not as graven an error as the other one) by a superior navy; they actually weren't up to snuff, even with their allies. Many times they just transported their navy across land, to flank the superior athenian fleet... their strength was and always has been their land troops! - bonus fact: they got the help of the behated Persians at some point... so much for the great defenders of freedom ^^

So, yeah... Athens, at that time, had a superior navy (probably the strongest in the world?), Sparta, for the most part, didn't have any navy... the pelopponesians in general feared and tried avoiding sea-battles with the superior Delian/attican league, like the latter tried avoiding land battles with the former!
Praetorian_INTP 5 Nov, 2017 @ 8:04am 
outdated / unplayable; any alternative?
TallestDavid 27 Aug, 2017 @ 8:48pm 
athens should have marines. shame. even thoughb sparta defeated them in the peplo war :/
MRFlackAttack 26 Feb, 2017 @ 11:19pm 
Cataph, can you make a mod that give the grand campaign Athens access to its Armoured Hoplite Marines from WoS?
Mr. White 14 Oct, 2015 @ 8:46am 
is this a historical unit?
Mittens 4 Apr, 2015 @ 10:06am 
Woot! Many thanks!
Cataph  [author] 4 Apr, 2015 @ 3:57am 
Already done, check my workshop. ;)
Mittens 4 Apr, 2015 @ 3:52am 
This is really cool. It's nice to have some dedicated marine troops, just for the feel of things. Any chance you could make a Carthiginian version, perhaps with falcatas instead of spears? I know they historically preferred ramming to marines, but still. Either way, keep up the good work. ^^
[RCC]Ebdanian 18 Nov, 2014 @ 10:50am 
Finally, ive been looking for this for ages.