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Devious Watchers Expanded
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Tags: Society Traits, Mechanics Overhaul
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Society Traits Expanded
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Description
Expands the bonuses of the Devious Watchers Society Trait.

- Agent Network - spread your agents and influence across the map to gather information and gain various advantages via shadow ops.

- Infiltrate enemies (and allies) to steal resources and spread paranoia and distrust. Then use sneaky spells and siege projects to exploit the gap in their defenses.

- Stalk enemies on the world map and ambush them in combat through Shadow Strike attacks, which provide bonuses when the unit strikes while not engaged.

- Hide your movements throughout your race's preferred terrain.

- Spread your vision over the map through scouting, alliances or magical means to reap additional benefits.

===================== Compatibility and known issues:=======================

Should generally be compatible with most mods, though units added by other mods may default to using the base version of the Shadow Strike depending on their implementation.

A new game should definitely be started to ensure all bonuses work as expected.
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TurtleMaster 16 Jul @ 4:52pm 
Hey, would it be possible to add some sort of marker or something to signify that a province has been infiltrated? Currently the only method I have to determine if it was a success or not is the shadow operations number going up, however this only applies to special province improvements.
TurtleMaster 15 Jul @ 4:53pm 
Nevermind, they do get upset about spying, however I'm not sure what the trigger is, since I had one of them literally attack one of my spying armies and didn't have a spy grievance
TurtleMaster 15 Jul @ 1:34pm 
After further testing I have determined that
A: The AI do not gain any additional grievances fromthem finding out you're spying on the. Just the ones for trespassing.
B: Anything within 1-2 provinces of the city center is pretty much always seen, so don't bother trying to infiltrate them. Aim for ones near the edge of big cities
TurtleMaster 15 Jul @ 8:42am 
Actually, the mod is functional. I think my other tests failed because it was either a modded improvement, or because I was too close to a throne city and they had a building that gave it truesight. Whatever it is, while it is a tiny bit confusing, the mod is functional
Muad'Dib  [author] 15 Jul @ 12:26am 
Hey, I am in the process of fixing and expanding this mod and the other Society Trait mods. Unfortunately this means I cannot actively support the existing versions as updates tend to break them often. I recommend disabling the mods from the playset for now if you are seeing issues - I will post an update with the updated version once it is out.
TurtleMaster 14 Jul @ 9:00pm 
It works. I'm not sure why sometimes it is, sometimes it isn't, im assuming it has to do with truesight, however I have succesfully infiltrated a province
TurtleMaster 14 Jul @ 6:37pm 
Update, Agent Network does work, HOWEVER it is extremly slow. I believe the reason is that it considers both to above and underground, so even if you map the entire surface you'd only get 25 network. It also only goes up by 5s, so its hard to see in the early game. I'm not sure if infilitration works, I haven't been able to in my testing, however one thing I noticed and am trying now is that it specifies "special" province improvment, so I'm hoping thats the issue. Considering no one has mentioned infiltration not working, I'm assuming it works fine and I'm just screwing up

TL;DR: Agent Network works, but is very slow. Am unsure as to whether if Infiltration works or not and am testing as of now
CinnamonWithAMonocle 27 Nov, 2024 @ 7:55am 
Hi Muad'Dib, I really enjoyed how you reworked Fabled Hunters and Devious Watchers. I have tested and Fabled Hunters work really well, but Devious Watchers seem to always have Agent Network points at 0. Unless I'm missing something, is this perhaps a bug? Will there be any updates on this? Really looking forward to testing the mod in full in the future!
Lemonz 13 Nov, 2024 @ 7:16pm 
A ninja civ with this would be really cool
Low Intelligence Specimen 10 Nov, 2024 @ 2:41pm 
Looking forward to an update for this. Adds a lot of flavour that could thematically combo well with the new shadow tomes