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Persistent Forts
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26 Jul, 2024 @ 10:00am
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Description
This mod makes forts and the new camp outpost persist for their owner, even if the region is taken.

Why I made this Mod?
I kinda hated that in the launch version of the game, if you took a settlement, you essentially deleted the armed forces that were stationed in forts.This was made more problematic with the "siege a fort with 1 general" cheese.

When I saw the functionality in High Tide around outposts being able to remain present in a region, I wanted to take that feature and apply it to forts (and the new camp outpost) for regular factions.

What is the impact of this change?
  • You can no longer delete fort garrisons by taking out a settlement.
  • The 1 general cheese still kinda works, but the fort garrison will still remain.
  • If you don't clear up a fort, if that fort owner attacks the settlement the fort will reinforce the attack.
  • Similarly, the new camp building will reinforce their owners armies in any battle within that region.
Can I do this for the other outposts?
Unfortunately, there seems to be some odd AI behaviours. Looks like they may ignore your outposts if they are not in your own regions. As such, doing this for non-garrison structures may end up just breaking outposts for the AI.

Recommended mods:
I built this mod as one of three that addresses my main issues with military outposts. Check out my other mods here:
Tower Ambushers: https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3301707607
Forts Reinforce all battles: https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3308569708


Bugs:
Relate to the AI issue above. It is highly recommend that if you raze an outpost/ see an empty outpost site on another factions region - you do not send your army to claim it. You will be given ownership of an outpost location you cannot build on and the AI will not realise is present. If the territory is conquered, that should resolve it. - Not sure if this is still the case in Dynasties, let me know!
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Lycia Pintella 26 Jul @ 12:02pm 
Just wanted to report I got a reproduce-able crash when conquering an enemy's last settlement with a fort in Kuwaliya. To avoid the crash, I temporarily disabled the mod and took the settlement.

The script log right before the crash is:

(I tried with capturing, looting, and razing with the mod enabled and still got the crash)
[out] <76.6s> hcp_character_looted_settlement
[design] <76.6s> & Removing effect bundle [phar_main_effect_bundle_arinna_shrine_t1_effect_01] from region with key [phar_map_kuwaliya_kuwaliya]
[out] <76.6s> Persistant_forts: Reason: abandoned and culture: troy_rem_clt_thraco_phrygians for region phar_map_kuwaliya_kuwaliya
[out] <76.6s> hcp_character_created

I suspect I could have taken the fort out before the settlement to avoid the crash as well, but it would have cost me momentum in my campaign so I didn't get to try that.
The_Inquisitor 20 Jul @ 4:36am 
Hey, just wanted to leave a quick report of a CTD that happens when confederating a faction with this mod enabled in Dynasties. I have been able to get it consistenly with Ramesses and Agamemnon mid-game.
Yellow Bear 6 Dec, 2024 @ 2:42pm 
These are a real game changer. Id love to see these integrated into some other overhauls. Would you be willing?
Hecleas 23 Nov, 2024 @ 10:32am 
I notice that the forts were very poorly integrated into this game from a CAI point of view.
I mod the AI ​​as best I can, but I wanted to ask you if there is a way that the AI ​​does not consider the outposts or that they are not attackable?
Let him only consider the colonies and the enemy's forces.
If it's possible it would be great
IfThenOrElse  [author] 23 Nov, 2024 @ 3:11am 
I was investigating a way to destroy the fort, but the problem I encountered is that you can't change ownership of the slot. It's a limitation of the game as far as I can tell.
baaam 22 Nov, 2024 @ 6:46pm 
Is there anyway to remove neutral faction's fort in my region? i occupied enemy region but there had been a neutral faction's fort and it remains after my occupation
hedue10 26 Aug, 2024 @ 1:01am 
Would i be possible to make the army in a fort in a enemy Region losing Units over Time due to consuption
IfThenOrElse  [author] 25 Aug, 2024 @ 2:00pm 
I have pushed out an update, so that if you trade a region that has a fort, your fort will be destroyed and the army within will spawn at the settlement of that region.
ZenQ 24 Aug, 2024 @ 5:18am 
When selling or exchanging a region, the fort stays with the previous owner.
Is this a known limitation, or is it a bug?
BiggerLonger&UncutGigolo 17 Aug, 2024 @ 2:39am 
Thats alright Man, thanks for the response regardless.