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More Realistic Brain Drain and Economy
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Updated version is included in my new Overhaul Pack: https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=430448307


Ties Brain Drain to High Earnings, Capitalist approval, and Wealthy approval instead of things like luxury taxes. Since these taxes already affected High Earnings, the effect is more nuanced gameplay. Also includes a number of minor economy changes.

Details of Brain Drain changes:
-Capitalist Approval affects Brain Drain (the lower the approval, the more Brain Drain)
-Wealthy Approval does the same
-High Earnings affects Brain Drain (when it's low it adds Brain Drain, when it's high it removes Brain Drain)
-Currency Strength affects High Earnings
-Brain Drain now increases Self Employed membership and income (with a high inertia so this will take time)
-Various taxes now affect Brain Drain indirectly through High Earnings and approval instead of directly
-Mansion Tax now affects High Earnings
-Tax Shelters have a reduced effect on Brain Drain

Details of Economy changes:
-High Earnings subtly affects Wages (with a very high inertia)
-Middle Earnings subtly affects High Earnings
-Low Earnings subtly affects Middle Earnings
-Poverty subtly affects Low Earnings
-Wages subtly affect Low and Middle Earnings

Most of these effects have small inertia values. They should also be able to either increase or reduce depending on their own value. For example, if you lower Middle Earnings enough this should have a negative effect, but raising them enough will have a positive affect.

Please be aware that this will make the strength of your GDP more important. Low GDP means low currency strength, which means a drop in High Earnings, giving Brain Drain which further lowers GDP. It is not an unmanageable challenge by any means but I still plan to balance this a little better sometime.
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Mario 4 Oct, 2019 @ 5:21pm 
Great
Mtext 7 Sep, 2019 @ 11:57am 
I wonder if Brain Drain should also be tied to things like Patriotism and Egalitarianism or be countered by some other quality-of-life matters. In its simplest form it's obviously supposed to be about potential high-earners moving to places where they can technically earn more, and some certainly do let comparative paychecks determine everything about where they live, but I think most people considering emigrating to a new country take a lot of other things into account too. Making more money in gross may not be worth it if you then have to spend it all on maintaining a security-equipped air-filtered personal bubble-home to survive inside while praying you never need a doctor.
Ace73  [author] 20 Jan, 2015 @ 12:45am 
Update on the way, removed effect of luddite riots and working on changing the interaction between middle and high earnings so that high earnings can only be raised by middle earnings, not lowered.
Ace73  [author] 15 Jan, 2015 @ 7:38pm 
The delay was probably just because it was the first time the game had to show the effects and it needed a minute to think. As far as the crashes, you should try this mod+policies pack and then this mod+industrial evolution. I suspect it's just the industrial evolution mod having conflicts with this mod. If that's the case I'll have a look at it and try to see if there's a relatively simple fix.
Slimboy Fat 15 Jan, 2015 @ 6:42pm 
It crashes and before it did there was a strange 1-2 second lag when I hovered over a policy before it showed me the usual effect stream -for lack of a beter word. You know what policies affect others that basic visual info.

Your ideas sound great and I agree the econ part of the game is too simple and uses GDP as some sort of magic bullet. Will check out teh modding tools thanks.
Ace73  [author] 15 Jan, 2015 @ 1:53pm 
As far as your suggestions, I've considered either making my mods compatible with one of the existing mods that adds things like inflation and purchasing power but it depends on how difficult/messy it would be. I might make my own versions of those sorts of things at some point because I think the economy in this game is way too simple and focuses too much on GDP. I'm considering working on something for banking, stocks, mortgages, and derivatives trading but it's just an idea at this point. Mining sounds interesting, it would be a good place to start on introducing lobbies--another aspect that is sorely lacking from this game.

Keep in mind this is just something I do for fun on occasion. I like to tinker and build things and usually when I make mods it's because the game has become too predictable. If you like this game I recommend learning how to mod it yourself, it's incredibly easy as long as you understand very basic algebra.
Ace73  [author] 15 Jan, 2015 @ 1:53pm 
Did it crash when you tried to start a new game? Or was it showing the "please wait" loading bar at the main menu? If it's the latter, just tap escape and it should work. If it's crashing when you start a new game then I'd have to look at where they're conflicting and do some trimming, like taking out redundant effects etc. If it's something other than that then honestly I don't think there's anything I could do, or the authors of the other mods. You'd have better luck asking cliffski what's going on. There's no reason that installing mods should break the game, you should be able to just disable them in the mods menu.
Slimboy Fat 15 Jan, 2015 @ 7:15am 
....Finally there should be a value for domestic and demand driven by low, middle and high earning plus global economy, purchasing power, inflation/currency strenght, income taxes and such. Demand have a large effect on GDP, investment and a moderate effect on unemployment.

I know this is a lot and it's complicated but I've been looking for a mod like this and I at least wantedto maybe give you some ideas. Whatever you do I'm sure it'll be great thanks.
Slimboy Fat 15 Jan, 2015 @ 7:15am 
Yeah i actually got some major mod compatability problems. So much that I had to delete them all and re-install the game. I'll be adding them again and I promise to tell you if something goes awry.

Got more suggestions also: what about a few more positive and negative effects like "natural resource boom" that is triggered by a few event and an expensive policy to look for mining/drilling oppertunities -the environment takes a hit and environmentalists are unhappy.

Foreign trade should have a much larger impact on GDP and unemployment -trade is one of the most importtant parts of a nations economy. Inflation should also have a much larger effect and needs to be kept in balance.

There should be a new value that effects all things economic: investments that rises with GDP, productivity and a trade surplus. Investment is lowered by trade defecit, low GDP, low inflation, corporate tax and there should also be a policy for public investment to use in times of low GDP....
Ace73  [author] 14 Jan, 2015 @ 1:43pm 
In the next update I plan to make brain drain affected by the global economy: when it is low it will lower brain drain. This way you won't be as penalized for having a low GDP if the global economy is just as terrible (because there's nowhere better to emigrate to). As far as bonds and such go, that's a little complex so if I added things like that they'd likely be in their own mod (that would be compatible with this one of course). For compatibility issues with other mods I'd need to know more about whats going wrong. Link me some screenshots, either comment here or add and msg me. You can hit f12 in-game to take screenshots and when you close the game steam will ask you if you want to upload them, select all and hit upload.