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Of course, there's still a chance but it's less likely, you just have to know who to ally.
For example, the peaceful and reliable Miyoshi sat with me all game with only two provinces despite me leaving the entire isles practically defenseless (I'm Chosokabe)
While I saved Shimazu's ass from Otomo and Ito who expanded eastward into Urakami and Bessho but then still get stabbed in the ass anyways so I went back west and beat the shit out of Shimazu.