Total War: SHOGUN 2

Total War: SHOGUN 2

Common-sense diplomacy adjustments [VANILLA, ROTS AND FOTS COMPATIBLE]
109 Comments
bartek.popinski 29 Mar @ 7:31am 
Seems like game is to OP with it- somehow as ikko ikki on very hard I hardly have any wars.
Gaara 22 Dec, 2024 @ 11:03pm 
Is this compatible with "Occupation resistance for AI same as player" by RTX4070 170 IQ ?
CarlNoLastName 5 Dec, 2024 @ 2:18am 
Really love this mod after my first playthrough, turns the usual free-for-all into something actually sensible. Alliances now matters in the long run and you no longer have to constantly check your back to not get backstabbed.

Of course, there's still a chance but it's less likely, you just have to know who to ally.
For example, the peaceful and reliable Miyoshi sat with me all game with only two provinces despite me leaving the entire isles practically defenseless (I'm Chosokabe)

While I saved Shimazu's ass from Otomo and Ito who expanded eastward into Urakami and Bessho but then still get stabbed in the ass anyways so I went back west and beat the shit out of Shimazu.
Alpharion 28 Jun, 2024 @ 8:19am 
Is there a way to reduce "Past Grievances" much quickly?
viny 15 Jun, 2024 @ 2:23pm 
Mod works but the territorial expansion modifier never stops and it breaks down every clan's relationship :steamsad:
Secuter 1 Jun, 2024 @ 3:48am 
I really love this mod. It makes allies and vassals actually useful and makes relationships with other clans meaningful. That said, I would love to see the "Territorial expansion" modifier degrade quicker. I believe it currently falls with 1 per turn which is nothing. That in turn will break down the alliance even if you're fighting the same enemies.
Henry 24 May, 2024 @ 9:25pm 
the mod still works for vanilla tf you people yapping about... just ignore the launcher warning it still works ...
Hokum ✠ 15 May, 2024 @ 12:27am 
this mod could use a hero
tonnawchannel 5 May, 2024 @ 5:10am 
update please
Consigliere Crow 22 Jan, 2024 @ 8:54pm 
I NEED A HERO
Little IsyourGOD 🛩 ᵃʳᵃ 21 Sep, 2023 @ 10:52pm 
pls anyone can update it :burosob:
Attano 5 Aug, 2023 @ 7:13am 
Mod doesn't work anymore
Tyler 11 May, 2023 @ 7:27am 
I find these diplomacy mods make the early and mid game better but make everyone in the late game passive af no one declares war on anyone
rcorse 7 May, 2023 @ 2:35am 
strange to me maraige begin a 100 whereas trade at +19 work
Axelov Ⅰ el Reliquario 23 Mar, 2023 @ 10:14am 
Great mod!
Trajano 20 Nov, 2022 @ 5:38am 
This work with Rise of the samurai?
Nukie 20 Oct, 2022 @ 7:09am 
Great mod!
Coach 13 Oct, 2022 @ 3:39pm 
Agreed with the below. I rage-quitted this game because of the brainless AI and diplomacy that made no sense. My vassals constantly declaring war upon each other is simply unbearable.
Corpral_C 7 Jul, 2022 @ 12:42pm 
Would this happen to make it less likely that my allies declare on my vassals? That's just really annoying.
General Gray Wolf 4 Jun, 2022 @ 12:13pm 
Completely agree, vassals are broken
Wiid 13 Mar, 2022 @ 5:50pm 
As of right now I can never get hostage requests to get accepted even if a clan has been destroyed outright an is begging for peace.
Wiid 13 Mar, 2022 @ 5:47pm 
Is there a way to modify how vassal clans work? After cornering a clan to the point of vassalage the fact that they can refuse hostage/trade/join war requests makes no sense. They should automatically join any wars you currently have as well as offering hostages for insurance, thats how it actually worked back then.
vani 8 Jan, 2022 @ 3:34pm 
Does vassals count as having an alliance?
MrClean 24 Nov, 2021 @ 9:16pm 
does it work for multiplayer campaign
Bandit With No Name 12 Sep, 2021 @ 6:47pm 
Does your Ally attack your vassal in this mod?
Chicken Eater 8 Sep, 2021 @ 11:48pm 
it still work

First step, I clear all mods out and then run this mod with Expanded Japan 97 mod

Second, so start with Hatori clan and try to trade with all clan around, if it start at 19 so it work

third step, add mods that u want and start shogun 2 again (it might not work with some other mods)

Enjoy :steamthumbsup:
Finarfin 23 Jun, 2021 @ 3:33pm 
Do you have to go through the whole 'start with only this mod enabled, quit game, restart, enable other mods, play game' each time you load the game or only the first time you install this mod?
TheProNoob 21 Mar, 2021 @ 11:19pm 
Not working for me i disabled all mod then start with this mod but it still doesn't work
jrlee10 10 Mar, 2021 @ 11:16am 
Is this mod save game compatible?
Skakk 3 Mar, 2021 @ 9:41am 
*Edit from below post.

"The game loads better in stages"
Should be
"Mods load better in stages"
Skakk 3 Mar, 2021 @ 9:39am 
Since you have waited patiently for 4 months for an answer, I shall oblige ;)

It is not suggested to activate mods within the game.
Due to how mods work with Shogun 2 not using a definitive load order, you must follow these steps;

-Load up the game with some mods activated.
-Go to the game start screen were you need to select your clan.
-When on this screen go back to the main screen and close the game.
-"Do not start a campaign!".
-After closing the game, restart and add more/the rest of your mods.
-Start your campaign.

The game loads better in stages.
Some mods don't mix well together, or loading many mods at once causes crashes.

By loading mods in stages you can get a stable running game with many mods.
Unlike some games, mods dont always overwrite each other.
Usually the mods loaded 1st take priority.
Arvegil 20 Nov, 2020 @ 11:39am 
@Gilmaris , how exactly do you re-enable the rest of your mods after you have launched the game!? I only know of the launcher and that pops up only when you start the game? Thanks
Jixxor 8 Sep, 2020 @ 10:37am 
I dont even understand how I'd activate my other mods after launching the game? I start the game, tick only diplofix, but then I get ingame and theres no Mod options or anything?
Gilmaris 17 Aug, 2020 @ 10:10am 
Hm, it seems it doesn't quite work as intended. New trade deals do start with a +19 relations, but it caps at 60, not 80 as it says here. And trade deals have been getting stupid difficult to enter into again, so it almost seems it has reverted to vanilla.
Gilmaris 15 Aug, 2020 @ 7:05am 
I suspect that those who complain about trade being broken, have not read the installation instructions properly. Remember, disable all other mods first when enabling this mod, launch the game, and then you can enable all the other mods again. I just tested vanilla with Uesugi, and my friendly neighbours were all too happy to agree to trade deals. One indifferent neighbour still insisted trade was unacceptable. But this does seem a step up from vanilla diplomacy, where you can end up not being able to broker a single trade deal no matter how much your neighbours love you, unless you bankrupt yourself with bribes.
One thing, though: the game seems a bit slower to exit to windows now than before I installed this mod. But maybe I'm just imagining things.
hjchang23 29 Jun, 2020 @ 4:28am 
Trade relation starting with 19 working good so far
Biggus Dickus 14 Jun, 2020 @ 9:09am 
did the trade problem solved?
Tennougin 7 Jun, 2020 @ 7:25am 
is there an alternative that works even at turn 0? i have to break alliance and trade to make the mod work.
Keyastian 20 May, 2020 @ 10:22pm 
Does this mod work with no realm divide mod?
Avibird 18 May, 2020 @ 9:09am 
does this mod still work and is it for the ROTS and FOTS aw well.
Aleksander Drako 26 Apr, 2020 @ 3:27am 
For some reason, after installing this mod in 2020 the trade is not existing at all (only starting exist). Not even AI trades with themselves
nicyatnite 13 Jul, 2019 @ 6:59am 
Will this work with the Imjin War mod? I see it already is using Expanded Japan as an example so I assume it'll work, but thought I'd ask in case you knew.
Olaf Jorigson 21 Apr, 2019 @ 9:09am 
How is it with vassals? They happen to betray me, even tough I freed them.
Riggs Esquire 24 Mar, 2019 @ 1:05pm 
Works great so far, a much needed mod thank :steamhappy: you!
Trade works fine so far I'm playing FoTS.
TheP00Master 17 Mar, 2019 @ 1:15pm 
No one trades with this mod
Geroge (Said like Giraffe) 30 Jan, 2019 @ 9:51am 
Hey I'm wondering is it possible you could teach me how to make comds compatible with one another?
Mr.Dacat 3 Dec, 2018 @ 2:15pm 
dont know what you done but i cant get a single trade agreement now. dont download this mod
~Natural Lubricant~ 19 Nov, 2018 @ 6:54pm 
Yeah would be amazing if allies actually did ally things right? XD
JaredTaylorForeverSavior 19 Nov, 2018 @ 10:33am 
@DVS I believe it's always been like that... I don't have this mod, yet still experience times where my allies and vassals won't march to attack our common enemies. Sometimes they do though, destroying our enemies swiftly. I feel like it's poor mechanics within Shogun2 that causes the lack of actual support from your allies and vassals. Most of my campaigns lack any sort of battles where my ally or vassal is along side me.
Ricemanu 3 Oct, 2018 @ 4:43am 
Hi there, this looks like a very cool mod! Can this be activated in the middle of a co-op campaign or would we have to restart? Thank you very much.