admiral giver, Privateer is not activated, in mods where it is replaced by another ship, for example, a galleon

@HardzFire: just sharing.. I've used them for a long time with no issues.

Hello, are your "Equally Great" Mods compatible with Real Great People? Does it also display the equivalent faces?

Have anyone else had Great Admirals spawn into a lake harbor and been unable to transfer it to the ocean because there is no city in that lake bank? The problem is that harbors can receive the transfer but NOT initiate it. Anyone knows a mod a where that crappy code?

I have a problem with Francis Drake. When trying to retire him it first says he needs a naval military unit then when I put him on top of one it says cannot have a military unit. I've removed all mods except this to test and same thing. I removed this mod and it goes back to vanilla and works fine (retires creating a privateer with promotion). Fixed it by blocking out the whole Drake section in gameplay.sql. GS + NFP

Turtle ships were added as a Korean special unit, and Yi Sun-Sin still does not give a turtle ship.

Turtle ships are not considered Ironclads. Ironclads are specifically defined as a steam-driven boat. There were no steam-driven boats at the time turtle ships were developed. Ironclads appeared in the Industrial era, and it is stupid to get one at a point in time when everyone else is using glorified rowboats.

Historians are divided about whether turtle ships were metal-plated. “There are no contemporary Korean sources from Yi Sun-sin's time which refer to the turtle ship as ironclad," and "Admiral Yi Sun-sin himself makes no mention of such a design in his comprehensive war diary" (source, Wikipedia).

You have never seen a Classical era Ironclad because no such thing existed.

If you prefer to carry on with your revisionist history narrative, go right ahead - no one is forcing you to install the mod that fixes this ridiculous problem.

Excuse me AOM, but to my knowledge they haven't added turtle ships. If they did, that would be what Yi Sun Sin would give when retreating. It's been a while since I've done research on this, but I remember the Turtle ships being considered as the first Ironclads.

Also I've never seen a classical era Ironclad, so that might be it.

I thought it couldn't be healed, but then remembered than Yi now gives coaal too, so yeah, that part wasn't true

Hi eliott.gallois, the Ironclad can be healed like any other ship in the game.

Turtle ships were not invented until the early 15th century, and historians are split over whether the ships had iron plating. Even if they did, they were nowhere near as powerful as an Ironclad. Yi Sun-Sin was not born until the 1500s, and he had nothing to do with inventing the Ironclad.

When Firaxis added turtle ships to the game in Rise and Fall, they made it a replacement for the Caravel, acknowledging the boat was a Renaissance vessel, not a Classic Era ship. Ironclads cannot be researched until the Industrial Era.

It is not at all historically realistic to get an Ironclad from Yi Sun-Sin in the Classic Era and to state that it is flies in the face of historical fact.

That said, if you want to keep getting an Ironclad in the Classic Era, don't install the mod.

I like the Ironclad, since it can't really be healed, and Yi Sun Sin's turtle ships really were hard to defeat ships, two centuries before any other ironclad-type ship was invented. It offers a really nice amount of historical realism which I love

Thanks!

Mod updated for the GS patch (so it will not cause a warning).

I totally agree. We had a game-breaking Ironclad armada in 80 BC (shown in the pic), and that's what led us to make this mod. What makes it even worse, is that the base game only has one admiral that gives an Ironclad, so not only is it an exploit, it's an exploit only one player can use per game - completely unfair.

This issue, among others, makes me feel that the devs often are not thinking - it strongly suggests they did not play-test the game much, if at all, before releasing it.

I dont know what the devs were thinking with the ironclad admiral, if you also have the wonder that increases admiral charges, then some admirals that give promotions and turn units into fleets then you can have two fleets of maxed out ironclads that can take any city in one turn and cant really be hurt.
Its game breaking and should be counted as an exploit.

I wish you could like comments so I could give AOM's response comment a like.

I am with you, an Ironclad in any age where Iron, steam, and cannons do not exsist together is stupid.

I'll give this a shot.

Ironclads, "steam-propelled warships protected by iron or steel armor plates" (from Wikipedia), were introduced in the 19th century. Online references to US Ironclads, for example, describe them as an innovation of the Civil War period.

If you "imagine" the developer really means "turtle ship," you're thinking of a Korean warship used beginning in the early 15th century.

In the game, the great admiral that confers the Ironclad is Yi Sun-Sin. He was born in the 1500's.

The Classic period ended around the time of the fall of the Roman Empire.

So yes, for me, the game allowing me to recruit Yi Sun-Sin and gain an Ironclad in 80 BC is immersion-breaking. I don't want a Civil War era ship when all my harbors can make is quadriremes (Hellenistic era warships).

I have read history. If you didn't or if you did and this ridiculousness doesn't bother you, that's cool, just don't install the mod.

Imersion break? Really? GO READ HISTORY