If by making it a harder target you mean turrets shoot it less, you know the "corkscrew" trick for dogfighting where you hold space,w and e so you don't get hit by turrets because they are stupid and can't compute lead well, it only works on interplanetary craft or with lots of up thrusters

@Whitehawk True, it was a pretty poorly-written example on my part. My main point is that these ships aren't really survivable enough to make it worthwhile to go out of your way to ensure that gyroscopes don't pop off. If you can do it without making sacrifices, fantastic, but you shouldn't prioritize it over making your ship a difficult target. Sorry I wasn't clear at first.

Also if your at the point where you don't have enough strong blocks to place them to, then you will probably make an exception to have more like 3 gyroscopes but then again would you need 6 gyroscopes for something that small, I am thinking a small grid

@Tom Foolery you don't place the objects just to put gyroscopes on for small ships lol, you can also do cockpits, hydrogen tanks, large reactors or thrusters, etc and then you don't need to place batteries just for gyroscopes

Btw it's the computer components that the turrets shoot at, also I know about that more surface area= more chance to get hit, but also if that block is damaged, it wouldn't get instantly removed from the game as soon as it gets hit by literally any projectile in the game, unlike armor, you are also supposed to only put two gyroscopes on any block at most (maybe only 1 to be safe) so you don't loose all your turning just from one block being destroyed

Ok I checked again, the Kestrel has two Gyroscopes behind armor attached to the side of the cockpit. The fighter cockpit is a pretty strong block and when the cockpit is destroyed, gyros doesnt matter either. So I think this is pretty good design.

a large battery with a gyroscope on it is more probably to be hit, because the battery is large and has components in it, that will make the turrets fire on it. The armor won't be fired at, only the gyroscope itself will be targeted.
I will have a look though.

I've never had a problem with gyroscopes attached to armor. In my experience, attaching gyros to things such as batteries causes more issues since they are attractive targets for turrets and they're single points of failure that can lead to many gyroscopes coming off at the same time.

I know you said not to put more than two gyroscopes on the same piece of equipment, but it would be impractical to use, for example, three batteries to attach six gyroscopes. In this case, you really don't have enough armor to take any real damage, so you're better off trying to stay small to minimize your chances of being hit in the first place rather than to prevent gyroscopes popping off in the event that you are. Yes, I know this last one was a tangent, sorry.

Iirc refinery, thrusters, jump drive, hydrogen tanks are the strongest blocks. The more components lthe better generally. Volume has no technical correlation to integrity. For small grid you should use batteries and hydrogen tanks, on the TF-180 the gyroscopes that are on the conveyor are okay for small grid but the ones on armor I just rotated on the one that my friend made in survival to be attached to be on the battery instead, I recommend to make that an official edit.

So whats stronger than heavy armor by block? A medium cargo container is 3x3x3 so it should be 27 times stronger than a single heavy armor block. Only the Gyroscope is stronger and the lamding gear is stronger than heavy armor, I guess. Maybe Blastdoor parts. In my opinion these are also more viable because these wont be targeted by turrets as they lack computer parts.

You don't put gyroscopes on the hull because the armor is really weak and literally meant to get destroyed, if the block a gyroscope is placed on is destroyed, it clangs and blows up the ship. So you'll want to place them on the strongest block you can, but do not place more than 2 on the same block because then if that block is destroyed you'll have all your eggs in one basket.https://youtu.be/jIYUHAmG2zo

Hm? What’s your point?

horx, you know you NEVER put gyroscopes on any armor, especially if its on the hull, right?

Sweet, thanks!

Sure! Do it!

Hey, JD, I'm wanting to use this in the background of a short film I'm working on for school. Do you mind if I go ahead and use it?

Thanks, still problematic that it relies on batteries though, but the large reactor is so clunky and big, difficult to integrate into the hull and the H-Engine is too weak in my knowledge.

I just booped into this to see how good it was, and holy crap is it better than what I've made

k. your ships have been a icon of the workshop for a long time. it'll be nice to see them with a touch up.

yes, I will try to fix some ships here and there, but we will get new blocks soon (thats what marek wrote in his blog) so since things are going to change, nothings final on my ships.

hay JD will the other ships get revisited now that the game is in full release.

marek mentioned weapon, decorative and economy blocks on his online blog.

We are suppose to get more blocks? I have been away from the game for like a year or more. I just started playing again.

idk, maybe with the more blocks we are supposed to get

Love these newer type Kestrel and Vultures, makes the old ones look vintage, lol. Are you working on any other fighters these sizes?
Thanks for good work.

Thank you, much appreciated :)

Hi JD, long time follower of your work. I love your style with your ships, simple and effective. Nothing overly technical and very survival oriented. Keep it up!

Thanks a lot! Great job on the shipyard!

Hello JD, Tribbles here. I've gone and done it again. I made another fan built contribution to the IMDC fleet starbase module packet for you. The Shipyards Module - Mk 2 https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1544783813 , anyways hope you enjoy it mate, defo took me a while. Also Why can't a type a message onto your profile page comment thread, i am subscribed to the thread so i do get notifications about it but i can't seem to post message on it to let you know of these ideasa and builds for you. Really weird, anyways i'm off mate. going to rummage around abit more with some of your builds and see if i can break ....... i mean "upgrade" any of the old things you have, catch you later man. oh and enjoy the shipyards everyone. Tribbles out

Glad to hear you enjoy them, thanks! And welcome back!

Returning to SE after a long time JD i'm so glad to see you building ships. Your builds have been so nice for a noob like me.

I'm assuming this is to supplement rather than replace the F-13a, since this has trouble accelerating in-atmosphere w/o the large hydrogen thruster. Other than that, looks great!

Do you have plans on making an IMDC battleship?

If you want to take a look at it
https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1491370418

Thanks!

Sure! No problem with that!

JD.Horx, mind if I upload what Nameless built and I painted? You would obviously be credited and if I can I'll add you as contributor.

380 blocks 31,507 kg with the changes i made.

Ok thanks for your help. Maybe I change it a bit, but it seems you added more armor to it what will result in more weight.

https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/profiles/76561198077988803/screenshots/ there you go screenshots 1-8 showing what i changed armor clean up detaling clean up.

im not going to upload it again but if you show some intrest in looking at the changes ill post some screen shot's.

it was uploaded to show you some small changes i made to better the looks of the desing in some areas its a lovely desing just some area's needed some small changes. i dont want to upload other peoples desings on my own work shop it was simply there so you could take a look what i changed ( and if you liked it you could add it to your desing , if not i dident mind really ).

Sorry did you already delete it? I dont know why you uploaded it in the first place.

Another great one from the best!

if your not gonna bother to check it out let me no so i can delete it, asap thanks.

hey checked your build out made some small changes to imrpove and clean up the looks a little https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1485661687 check it out or dont check it i dont mind really, but some of the armor details anoyed me and some badly placed thruster's i cleaned them up.

why does it have the same designation as a real world fighter

Survival ready!

surviaval ready?

Ooo, yes! Me likey!