Controller is broken. No cockpits get the zeppelin controls.

This is a function that should have existed for a long time in SE.
An update is needed. They could use a modular system similar to the one in the Forever Skies game.

Great job PhilThe or is it Mr Thrill? The looks great and I can't wait to see how many seconds after launch comes the first 'Brown Trousers" event. Thanks for sharing all the time and effort you put into this, cheers mate,

Figured it out, turns out I had way too many gas cells for the weight of the craft

I haven't worked on this in a couple years. There are more recently updated versions out there.

How do you actually get this working, since at the moment the gas cells just climb at light speed to the edge of space and then just cut off their thrust once they pass it

cruddiestmonk26, This mod is not being developed at the moment. I am surprised it even works on the latest version of SE. NXTtrain may have an updated version. The original creators also worked on a complete rewrite around a year ago, maybe they released that version.

I'm having a hard time making a carrier out of the a zeppelin at random time i attach a small grid ship to it it starts repeatedly redoing its altitude until i replace all the conecters that are being used to attach my fighters. but then if i change something there's a random chance it'll happen again.

Alright, thanks a bunch

Pulsing123, Tachi

The code in this mod is not up to date. I believe the original developers may have gotten it working again. In addition, NXTtrain seems to have improved it as well so maybe message him (his comment is below)

is there a reason my ships spin out of control when i have this mod installed?

Zeppelin goes straight up and doesnt come down for me, also how did you get the LCD to work? tried putting Zeppelin in the custom data and it did nothing

Yes, please!

So, I looked at the scripts, and I managed to get the small grid version of the balloon fully working. It was rather easy actually. I also modified the controller script so that it is available on every type of cockpit block. I'm still looking at a proper way to balance everything, but if people want, I can upload this modified version to the workshop

Yeah that is correct. It isn't really great for gameplay purposes though. I have stepped away from this mod, but it wouldn't be hard to change some things and make it realistic.

Am I mistaken or would the zeppelin not hold nearly as much hydrogen as a regular tank, since it would be uncompressed? I'm a bit noobish on the topic but a quick web search seems to indicate it would be something like zepp-capacity = tank-capacity / 280... so something on the order of like 900 "liters" as the game counts them at compressed density normally.

If that's correct (and I could be completely misunderstanding) is that too much realism, or an appropriate amount?

hi, no even with multiple vents it is just going up and down

You probably need a vent. I have been devoting most of my time to my own game, so this mod and its bugs are on hold. The original developer of the controller has been fixing a lot of the main issues with it, if he wants to own the mod I will link it, or if he wants me to adjust and reupload I can do that too later.

In addition I will be out of the country for the next 4 weeks, and will not be uploading at all for that period.

hi, sorry to bother you but now the options to set the altitude so on are ther but the blimp is still going up and down uncontroleable

hi, in my test world the options wont appear in the cokpit

Hey w4sted. At the moment it's only working on SP, I am doing MP testing right now. I'm keeping this and a few other places posted for that change.

oo, looking forward to giving it a try :) Nice one

Oh weird. Turns out I fixed it a long time ago and was hitting a core game bug. This will NOT be compatible with previous versions as I have fixed a ton of name misspellings (original code had zeplin, zeppelin, zepelin, baloon, balloon, and several other wonky things) that made it hard to maintain. I will do a quick MP test on my server once it is uploaded

Hahaha no, I need to finish this up. Its currently a source of shame

oh im sorry man, really wasnt wanting to push you :D
Working on an idea these are perect for and didnt want to "commit" if it was abandoned or you didnt have time :)

Uuuuuuuuugh I guess I will work on it again today lol

Hay, great work on the mod and thanks for keeping on top of it.
Any idea if you will be able to resolve the current issue?

Yeah I am trying to figure out what caused them to break.

the controls seem to be gone from a recent update

@Ranos I haven't experienced an issue like that in the latest version. There are a lot of potential causes for that issue, so I am sending you a friend request so we can message and troubleshoot it more efficiently.

Is there a way to limit the max vertical speed? I think limiting it to 10m/s for every 100m it is away from its target altitude would help.

I've lost 3 zepplins now due to the acceleration issue. They all started at 7km from sea level, then they start going up and down, getting faster each time. They also wait longer and longer after they have past the target altitude to start slowing down. Then at some point, they body slam the ground.

I put on 16 large thrusters to try and help it, but now it's pushing the whole thing up over the target, and it's only getting faster.

How do you get a zepplin to stabilize? Mine wont stop accelerating up and down, getting to about 4km away from the target altitude.

"I'm in the airship!"

- villain

@TOFUSQUARE Yes, the controls are in the control panel for any cockpit

So if I read that all right I can add this and set a height and assuming I have enough lift it will maintain that height?

But we have one advantage that they sorely lack





Z E P P L I N S

@Airomis that's one of the planned changes. I eventually want to do a full rewrite of this to make it more intuitive and performant, but for now these two mods patched together works.

Love it, I'd only change the vent to a vent block vrs the thruster block

Z E P P L I N S

Never knew i wanted this until now.

Each instance of a cockpit executes calculations and tries to manage hydrogen tanks. I initially intended to separate the code from the cockpits and register the grid on cockpit add/remove. Then any number of cockipts can control the grid without interfering and increasing performance load.

There are a number of conditions that should be able to short circuit the execution loop to optimize things. It's been a while so I don't remember details. If you try optimizing anything see if you can reduce how much/how often hydrogen tanks are manipulated that is where 80% of it's performance cost is.

Oh ok cool that gives me something to work on for a while. Do you know which things caused the most performance issues? Subgridding and cockpits seem relatively straightforward.

Ok, there were a few features we had issues with: multiple cockpits, subgridding and overall performance costs that are on my to-do list before we do another scenario that uses the mod.

I was planning on it. It works on my server (private, 3 or fewer players) with no problems. If it had any issues before I haven't fixed them, but I haven't found them yet.

Hi Phil, are you supporting MP with the current changes?

Thanks fellas, you guys still did 90% of the heavy lifting (pun intended). A majority of things I changed were either making it work on other planets(just realized I need to fix something for this) and updating deprecated API calls. If you want to work on the project or use the code to update the TLB one feel free to unpack it or I can send you a git repo.

oh noice. I should have done some of these things from the start, like packing the controller with the gas cells. The controller was originally thrown together to work for a very specific scenario planet we were running on the TLB server.

Thanks for linking to the original mods! Feel free to hit us up at TLB if you have any questions!