"Sindobaddo 12 hours ago : @pgames-food may I see your base please?"

ah hi, sure, here you go: (part 1 and part 2) its a bit older but still looks like this today. (i have about 5 maps with much better bases fixed up from real ruins maps i managed to take over, after about 2 lots of 50+ raiders drop podded onto my head but i havent got any screens of those yet. (a mini video showing the bases and maps is still on my todo list)

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@pgames-food may I see your base please?

@hewerine, 0.18? (that beats me) :) im still on v1.2 with my savegame and 500+ mods :)

its fine, i wasnt really expecting an actuall 0.18 fork

@hewerine I have no means of doing that, sorry

this might be a dumb suggestion but could you possibly make a 0.18 version?

@Wolf653 im completely fine with my colonists dying, its going to make the game more harder so i have to plan some raids instead of just putting my colonists behind a barricade and just watch.

@parrot aight i've been thinking for this for awhile now but what you described with the grenade launcher isn't that just the result of colonist instant kill multiplier? if it damaged a required body part ofc. i assume the intent is you want the death on downed chance to apply to colonists which realistically speaking would just make medical useless with a population of around 15 per say because of population intent.

just for armour to work instead of having a colonist surviving a grenade launcher while wearing a poor human leather duster

is there going to be a opposite of this mod where colonists have the same death risk of a raider?

@Mlie Good Point, I'm not so sure about the Animals and Mechanoids. Just noticed it earlier today while I was going through my Mods Settings and starting a Test Save for performance checks.

@Ki Shuya I guess, if there are settings for animals and mechanoids as well, this mod may not be needed

This is a Setting in the base game now in Custom Settings? Raiders Death of Down % same for Owned Pawns if I'm not mistaken.

Raiders may never die but your frames will

@The Pope Dlcs yes, multiplayer no idea

Does this mod work in multiplayer and with dlcs?

yeah i actually just learned about that one myself lmao brilliant

@Goose You can always change the values in the storyteller settings. This mod is a bit redundant since they added the possibility to change it in the storyteller tbh

@Mlie I have NO idea what im looking at tbh. I'll probably just go ahead and get rid of the mod and just deal with raiders dying all the damn time tbh. Thank you for your help.

@Goose The calculations are a bit complex, I think the simplest is if you have a look at the source

https://github.com/emipa606/RaidersNeverDie/blob/main/Source/RaidersNeverDie/HarmonyPatches.cs
Starts at line 47.

It's okay, its just that the mod options were a bit confusing. A simpleton like myself would look at them and go "so the chance of a raider dying is 0%, unless i change it" Even now the animal death chance is still confusing. Its set to 100% (i believe that was default) which very much makes it seem like animals have a 100% chance of dying, but thats not the case.


So 0% would be the same chance of dying as colonists, does that mean 100% would be double the chance of dying? And is that the same for humans mechs and animals?

@Goose Added an additional explanation above the original description, hopefully this will clear things up.

@Goose Just tedious to explain things multiple times, nothing personal

@Mlie, you dont need to be a prick. The mod options clearly says "raider death chance". It doesnt matter what the mod description says if the mod options can be taken differently.

@Goose Not sure how more clear the description could be. 0% means that the additional death-chance that raiders has is removed and they are treated the same as colonists.

the description says "Raiders by default die more easily than colonists, even when using fists or melee weapons. This mod removes the additional death risk for raiders. Use the mod settings to change it to something in between."

But the mod settings is default on 0% raider death chance? what do i need to change it to to have it be the same as my colonists?

o thanks imma download

@Pie row jekter I mean, the description explains the mod in detail

so does this mod completely remove the chance that raider will die no matter what you do or does make it give then the same chance of your colonists dying

@blockermocker Nope

infinite organ glitch!?

Haha, yeah, no, I don't think that will be necessary. But yeah, I originally though this would let me down all raiders without killing them. Unless "finish off", but yeah.

@Nirahiel Just be sure to tell the original author that they named their mod wrong

Well then it's not "raiders NEVER die" :P

@Nirahiel Well, raiders can still die. This mod just removes the increased chance compared to colonists.

I still get some raiders to die. Though I also have "faction raid cooldown", "no one left behind" and "enemy self preservation", could one of these be the culprit ?

Is not there a storyteller option to disable extra chance?

Thanks!

The issues with raiders always dying should be fixed now. Setting it to 0% got an inverted result in game causing 100% death-rate instead

I'm currently getting an issue where 100% of my raiders are dieing, anyone got a fix? mod options don't appear in game too btw

i just tested with @KingRapid mentioned and he is right i set mine to 500% death chance and not a single raider died.

I, too, almost 100% of the raidars were dead. Instead, I raised the radar's probability of dying to more than 100% in the mode setting, so many radars survived. I've only tested a few raids yet, but I think this is the solution.

i have the same experience atm.

I noticed the same. I only have the royalty Addon.

This mod should be called "Raiders always die" :D

Isn't there also now a custom difficulty thing?

Yep.
All raiders die almost all the time. 10 raids, total of around 60 people, only one guy lived. Not for long, but he downed at least.

This mod is entirely broken right now. It also breaks the same implementation that is done by Combat Extended, which functions properly in isolation. I noticed that every raider died when I added this mod, which was jarring. So I tested a scenario. I spawned 10 pirate pawns, then set them to my faction and drafted them. I then spawned 10 tribal archers about 10 tiles away and made my faction enemy to them. I did this three times with 3 mod configurations, with the only other mod being Harmony loaded before Core: Vanilla, Raider's Never Die, and Combat Extended. Here are the results:

Vanilla: https://i.imgur.com/C5ahoGz.jpeg (2 downed, 6 dead, 2 escaping)
Raider's Never Die: https://i.imgur.com/lgEgKl5.jpeg (0 downed, 7 dead, 3 escaping) [Bad picture, there are 3 additional dead above]
Combat Extended: https://i.imgur.com/kFM0Kg3.jpeg (6 downed, 0 dead, 4 escaping)

Should work better for deathless pawns now

I used dubs performance analyzer. It gave me massive tick spikes in large battles pointing to this mod.

@LesbianFistingSex Could you verify that? Its not much to go on

This mod may bug out and give extremely low performance. If your game is lagging... might be this mod.