This is so f*ck off powerful. I love it.

Enjoy the mod a lot, however its very finicky if used in combination with the evac mod as i dont know why but it is considering the panicked enemies as non-combatants i guess which technically true but because you cant continue doing actions after it starts, the moment you extract with that mod it causes the enemies to cleanse their panic depending on who ordered them to surrender and start blasting your units. Unintended side effect but thought it would be worth mentioning

Massively overpowered

I'm really enjoying this mod so far (just starting out, with Gray Phoenix first), it gives a neat alternate way to try to take enemies out of the fight during the breach. And if you get even one enemy perma-panicking it can give you a chance to regroup, heal up, and prepare if you have a mission where you pick something up and have to endure waves of enemies.

Was thinking of an update for this:
If the attempt to order surrender fails, instead of panicked in green, it'll say in red "Yeah, right!"

This stopped working for me randomly.

Permanent duration is a little intense. It should have a configurable length.

I think this would be significantly more balanced if enemies could move to other enemies to clear the panic. Then it'd be sorta like a terror mission from the other side. Less OP in the beginning, more unique, makes the mechanic require more strategy because you can't just throw it on everyone for what is effectively an instant kill. And I do agree with the below comment that it shouldn't work on certain "boss fight missions".

You can add exclusions to the list yourself in theory, and increase e.g. Aggressive or Alert bonuses or the base chance. You can also reduce the turn count they stay surrendered (I have mine at 4, which gives enough time to at least thin a couple). The XComGameData_SoldierSkills.ini is commented so it states what each item does. Panicked enemies being easy to subdue is a nice touch too.
I think part of the problem is also the Will stat of e.g. Praetorians is also 50, same as mooks, so it makes them very cheesable with this mod. A workaround is to exclude them, or to raise their Will stat.

Love how you get a bonus to the order by knocking out prior units, giving future units reason to trust the surrender command will save their lives. Detailed, nice, simple touch.

"Should probably make it simply *not work* during faction last stands and endgame."
as a MUST to all other players as a valid alternative for lack of self discipline not to use it yourself ??

I've found this to be very overpowered.

I took out two Praetorians and a Ronin *on the vs Soverign* stage with this.

That's half the high threat targets in the freaking final boss battle!

Should probably make it simply *not work* during faction last stands and endgame.

Just noticing two things about this mod, One, it would be neat if you were able to find appropriate voice lines, or any feedback to play when demanding surrender (i havent looked at all the voice lines from the operators yet, but im sure that there are some that would work for "Don't move" or "Don't resist" (i know torque has some of those as bind quotes lol)

and secondly, using this on aggressive enemies, doesn't have them stand down right away, even if successful. I ordered surrenders from a legionaire, and it succeeded and they panicked for the rest of the game, but they still fired at me during the breach phase. is this intentional?

depends on the enemy you are up against, i am in a state where 5% is a very bad chance.
It is almost "too weak" in the endgame ;)

@batofara2005 I do feel that as well. I try to limit myself to only surrender 1 person per encounter to keep it from being overpowered.

Can it be that enemies that already surrendered still fire back after the breach phase or am i wrong because there are so many of them in certain missions?

@memeologist It already, effectively, does this. if they fail the will save, they panic, and do absolutely nothing for the rest of the encounter. you still have to clean them up after you take down the non-panicking enemies, but that's fairly simple as well, since Subdue instantly knocks out panicking enemies with this mod as well.

I think that there should be a small chance, depending on if there is an over 100% success chance that they will surrender and not be able to attack for the rest of the encounter, therefore rendering them as a "civilian."

I've been using this for 3 missions now on a new game on hard difficulty and it feels a little overpowered, at least for the beginning

Chances at the beginning seem to hover around 75-85% against Gray Phoenix (I didn't read the full description before I started playing), so I typically get 3-4 people to automatically surrender and spam subdue on the last 1-2 to people

It feels like I'm cheesing the game, so I probably won't use the mod anymore. I understand it is the first few missions and the enemy counts and willpower will raise later on, but it doesn't feel right for there to be no need to even shoot anything in a lot of encounters.

@Memeologist what do you mean? as it is right now, they panic for the entire fight, performing no actions until you subdue them.

although if you use Verge's Battle Madness on them they'll start fighting normally.

@ RealityMachina, this is seriously my favorite Chimera mod right now, or as I like to call it the: "XCOM! Get the F*** DOWN NOW" mod : )

@5ofClubs his breaching ability seems to increase the chances of success across the whole squad, in my limited experience.

This feels like an ability where Axiom should have a higher chance of success.

@Sandvich Dispenser Yeah, that would be nice. Kinda sucks to capture 20 enemies and get...20 intel in total.

Cool. Someone needs to make a mod that gives you alternate rewards if you capture enemies past 100% intel reward chance tho

Idea is fun.

Might want to consider the effect of the instant knockout of Subdue with panic; it's intended to work with Order Surrender, but other methods of panic-inducing will enable the instant knockout as well.

@derekdwhite25 in my experience so far, you can consistently remove 1 or 2 enemies from the fight, about the same as normal breaching fire. the only thing that makes this mod a little bit OP, is the Sorcerer AI still targets the panicking enemies with Tyranny, bringing them up in the move order..... to sit there and continue panicking.

Interesting mechanic. Sounds like it might be too powerful, but I'll definitely be giving it a try.

@HATERADE if they aren't alive they shouldn't count as a kill then, obviously! but yeah, i'm just ignoring any 'kills' from Mecs and codexes and other things i PHYSICALLY can't incapacitate for now.

holy shit this is a great idea

Awesome mod

This makes so much sense why isnt this in the base game

Fantastic idea.

Also, this improves Axiom slightly, because his panic can lead to one immediate capture.

KILL THEM ALL, and let the Elders sort them out.

This definitely should be included in the game. XCOM 3 TAKES NOTES!!!

@scornonical dear lord I didn't realize I needed this so badly.

Imagine a mod that replaces Axiom's roar with "FBI, OPEN UP!" that would be beautiful

I very much like this mod. I do notice, though, that Zephyr can't use it.

I'm surprised that this option didn't come in the game by default

@Alexander Anderson: You can't kill something that isn't alive : D

i love this, it's great for what i wanted to do, a 0 Kills run. sadly i've already failed because Codexes, Mechs, turrets, and Androids cannot be incapacitated, only killed. do you think you could make a mod that allows Patchwork (only character this thought makes sense with to me) to shut down enemy Mecs in some way, allowing you to incapacitate them without Killing them? if not, i'll just live with the knowledge i only killed those the game FORCED me to. XD

Lmao the devs must be losing their minds on how such a simple concept can have such a dramatic impact. This is such a good idea

oh nice. A Swat 4 thumbnail too!

I like this, giving this a chance instead of filling them with Tranq Rounds.

This is nice, further enforces the police theme and potentially makes it so that killing hostiles is only a last resort.