Problem with using this and Revan's Revenge however, bombers will not drop their payload and are almost worthless, I'm pretty sure it's a bug and despite Thrawn's Revenge still being more recent despite the submod's lack of changes, still works as far as I can tell.

If you want to apply this submod to Revan's Revenge, here's the launch properties:
STEAMMOD=2083545253 STEAMMOD=3417277973

the submod that makes you look at point defense and fleet tenders with a LOT more interest :p

Will this submod require an update for FotR 1.5?

to get all the sub mods to load with each other load each sub mod with the base mod then test if it works load in another one and repeat launch then keep adding them one at a time it should work as long as the base mod is the one that loads last in order also having the smaller ones first will help as they wont hang trying to load their data and will cause less breaks to the loading of the rest

love how this works still with other two mods :3

I believe that it depends on where you put the steammod=(numbers). Cuz Steammod doesnt load them all at once but instead in an order.

is there a way to get this mod to work via steammod method with "Better Venators" and the "limitless heros" submods?

This + Victory I stacks = profit

Indeed the real men knew on when to fight hard and die well and went on to the max diffculty

only real man use this mod on the extreme and brutal AI

the submod working fine with the mods it made

please update

update pls

The most important point to mention here is that the Submod will destroy the balancing system completely

yes-ish, more than the original was

No

Before I download, is this lore accurate?

Should Work yes

Will this work for FotR 1.4?

to get the m75 and the star hawk, get the upgrade on the space station from Eaw that has an image of a battle ship

Yes

does this work with 3.3 on thrawn's revenge?

@CaptainLeo1784 is an option in 3.5

Those are in the main mod via a toggle option now

I want the mc75 and the star hawk

Will this work for FOTR 1.3?

1.3?

Will this mod work at launch for FOTR 1.3?

There is no such submod for AotR at the moment.

It is unlikely that the Devs will do such a Submod for AotR, because the Devs of this submod are the Devs of the main mod too and there is no reason for them doing it for a different mod.

+Corey Loses

Question: do you know of any modification that makes it so that missiles do not penetrate shields in awakening of the rebellion?..and if not (considering that you've made this mod) would you (or someone) be willing to make a quick mod that made it so that missiles are stopped by shields in AOTR?..

Having issues with having a fleet over an Imperial faction that is about to be absorbed via the legitimacy feature. Every time I accidentally leave Han & Chewbacca over a planet that is about to swap factions via legitimacy, they disappear and I can't bring them back. Same goes for all Boarding shuttles that sit over a planet like this.

I love how lore friendly this mod is i mean we see bombers use proton missiles and bombs to disable larger capital ships (see Rogue One for perfect example and not to mention Star-Wars Squadrons with fighters flying through shields) im glad that fighter/bombers laser/turbo weapons dont bypass shields now that would be broken

Makes bombers/any ship that uses torpedoes or missiles ACTUALLY work properly and become a boon to ships with heavy shields. So good!

Any way we can get the ground shields upgradeable again?

i use lasers so this submod didn't apply but it actually doesn't help since in both mods you normally use capital ships so not really a big effect

to me the mod isn't lore friendly as anything larger than a star fighter usually had both particle and ray shields to both block incoming energy/radiation, lasers and what not, and particle shielding which was used to block physical objects. In universe the proton torpedo is a physical weapon, ergo the particle shielding that most ships have would stop the projectile based weapon from hitting the ship. Now that being said the shield emitters can eventually be overwhelmed with sustained fire buut depending on the class of shield the ship carried could be overwhelmed by a single fighter squadron or need multiple capital ships to take out, or in the case of the death star II could literally shrug off an entire fleets worth of firepower and be fine. Planetary shields too op. #plsnerf

two questions: Does this work with save games or do I have to start a new game? Second, is this mod out of date or is it just bad for more recently updated FotR and ok for TR?

The submod isn't updated for FotR 1.2, because TR isn't updated currently.

@corey please fix this, this mod takes 1 of the worst features of thrawns revenge and fall of the republic and fixes it. without this, 1.2 FOTR feels clunky and annoying in space battles

My text is bugging, i cant read anything. How to fix that?

@Rogue One it's not, at least yet

Is this still compatible with the 1.2 update for Fall?

@realest grandpa if anything it's more about allowing an aspect of gameplay to work a big thing in both mods is the massive amount of strike craft that can be involved without shield pen the bombers don't really impact battles all that much plus hammering away at shields can be a complete bastard of a time.

STEAMMOD=2083545253 STEAMMOD=1125571106STEAMMOD=2083545253 STEAMMOD=1125571106

does this make it easier in any way

My third possible addon would be being able to buy individual squads of alliance fighters, interceptors, and bombers because they house hyperdrives in them but to make it a little bit more fair to the other factions and their gozantis a squad equals 4 fighters.

And that's all of my ideas to you feel free to notify me if the ideas are approved for submod of course.

So Corey, I was thinking about your astonishing work with your Mods and Submods so i thought of ideas to enhance your Mods/Submods by making them feel a bit more authentic and entertaining.

So forth my first idea gozantis that carry 4 fighters from the standard TIE to TIE interceptors and TIE bombers for all the Imperial splinter factions. Nice touch in my opinion.

For my second proposition I suggest the rebel Hammerhead corvette as a sacrificial ramming ship as its special move would be to damage enemy capitol ships with active shields kinda like the "Shield penetration Submod" but for ships.

@BUTTSTALLION one is for Thrawns Revenge itself and the other is for the Sub mod itself. If your only running one sub mod then just copy and past both. If your running multiple like myself then you only copy the first section. for example i'm running Thrawns Revenge with MC75, Small Home One and Venator submods. My launch option text is - STEAMMOD=2298456922 STEAMMOD=2373181531 STEAMMOD=2361851963 STEAMMOD=1125571106. If I were to add this I would add STEAMMOD=2083545253 to the beginning of my text. I hope that helps.

@Francis Shields are split into ray and particle shields. Missiles and torpedoes have penetration aids to get through both. Mass Drivers and Gauss weapons are nothing more than another gun. Statistically they drop shields the same as a turbolaser. It's just a visual effect, nothing more.