i butchered humanlike in like year 2 of playing. its now year 4 and this mood keeps reappearing on my pawns.

@Darian Stephens

As far as I can remember myself, the lost pawn would just vanish with no gameplay consequences.

That's the problem with this mod in general: once I looked closer, it just went deeper and deeper and in theory, I needed to implement a way for pawns to randomly want to "check up on someone else". This was something completely unexpected when the mod was being created at first, and that just blew up the planning to nine heavens, and I simply couldn't do it.

What happens in a case where a pawn's spouse is part of a caravan, and the entire caravan is lost?
Do they immediately get the 'spouse died' debuff, do they get it eventually after a reasonable time has passed with no news for them to assume the worst?
Do they just never get the moodlet because there's no one left to report back?
Or is there perhaps an alternative moodlet about their spouse and friends being missing, with them never truly getting closure?

@oinko sploinko This mod is only about how news is spread between your colonists. Its out of scope for it to handle all other pawns

It would be great if there was an option to discreetly kill guests or faction members to avoid faction relations dropping.

ahhh fair enough sorry my bad :)

@stk2008 No, as mentioned in the description, this mod affects how information spreads among your colonists

So I had some traders visit and then some more turned up different faction.
one faction killed the other side apart from a few on the floor nearly dead.

Now all other pawns left the map apart from mine and the few left dieing on the ground.

I decided to finish them off but when I did I got a notification that faction ratings has dropped.

Am I thinking that this mod should have prevented that or?

Thanks in advance :)

@stk2008 If its been requested before its on the todolist

Thank you for getting back to me
I read that it does not play well with Ideology as per some of the comments below is this correct?

Thanks

@stk2008 What do you want updated with it?

Please could we get an update for this great mod.

Thanks

This mod basically requires some pawns to still exist after they are unloaded, but RuntimeGC will aggressively delete unloaded pawns.

Ah okay. i understand thanks :)

@(OriginalOwl) I dont use that mod but if there are its connected to the removal of pawns

I understand the incompatibility with runtime-GC mods and why - but do you know if there's way to also prevent this in settings?

i guess we have to request new feature.

@elek this mod was made before Ideology was a thing; it would count as a new feature

@Jet Please see the Reporting Issues section described above

https://gist.github.com/HugsLibRecordKeeper/93257bf690fdab6c2eab9e602ba785fd

getting a recurring butchered humanlike thought despite it being 2 years after i accidentally butchered one. removing it with devmode doesnt stop it

https://www.reddit.com/r/RimWorld/comments/1gfb7cn/my_pawns_are_upset_about_us_harvesting_organs/lumu8sg/
it seems this mod is causing a bug where pawns are upset about harvesting organs despite their Ideology saying it's acceptable

"can ideological role unlocks be limited to the colony they are on? IE: you need 3 ideology ppl in the same colony to trigger roles"

doesnt seem to be the case anymore .... i could have sworn this was vanilla behavior. I used to use cryptocaskets to not have them be considered part of the 3 that unlocked roles but now it takes acount of all people in my faction across colonies

This idea seems to be a helluva fun and realistc!! Love ittttt!! Thanks!!!!!!!!!

can ideological role unlocks be limited to the colony they are on? IE: you need 3 ideology ppl in the same colony to trigger roles

@JumboViking Please see the Reporting Issues section described above

hey i went to edit the mod options and the menu is loading behind the mod select page. i can still click on option of this mod but i cant see what im changing...

I'm looking for something "local' like i want my butcher to chop some human without everyone getting mood debuff ( since he's the only one allow to go to the kitchen )

Is it working too ? or is it only for multiple colony ? Thanks !

@Jet Works but bugs may always exists depending on your other mods.

is this still working no bugs?

This mod is breaking the Justified/Required Execution Precept. And the killed a child mood debuff. I did some extensive testing and nailed it down to this. The pawn doing the execution is upset instead of pleased to have executed a prisoner/guest and is completely ignoring the fact they just executed a child (we needed meat ok...). Simultaneously everyone is upset about the execution instantly while not giving the killed a child social debuff. This occurs with this mod in isolation.

@Bobby_Hill I'm looking for the same thing man... Having a hard time finding anything though sadly.

Oh well. hopefully someone makes something like that someday

@Bobby_Hill That is not what this mod is about.

@Mlie thats dumb! i want a mod that lets me harvest organs without people knowing. how would the faction know if I did it and killed the pawn i harvested from? they should only know if i set them free and they go back to tell what happened to them

@Bobby_Hill No, This just makes the news spread from pawn to pawn. If a pawn from the faction knows something, the faction still knows it.

Still get negative favor with factions after harvesting organs from prisoners of that faction. I thought this mod was supposed to make them not omnipotent

I can't explain, but saw this appear mostly in game where and Prepare Carefully and some mapgeneration mods are present. But hard to tell, i used some mods in so many different game versions with result that could differ depending.

Looks like it is a conflict triggering it, though I honestly have no clue what it could be.

Supposedly I initialized the relevant vars only when the game enters the map proper, but Prepare Carefully might just decide to kill a pawn or sth at the world screen before entering the map proper. This is what I guess over these years.

There is also this fact that RW implemented something close to world-storage from HugsLib right when I was distracted irl.

@AerosAtar I havent seen this in my test or in my playthrough with the mod. Can you verify with only this mod loaded?

[Desyncronized]: The TNDBS is unexpectedly null, cancelling creation of TaleNews. This may happen because the map is still being set up (or, alternatively, you are using Prepare Carefully), but otherwise, this is a bug.

Happens on *almost* every new game start (when loading the new map, before unpausing for the first time). I'm not using Prepare Carefully, so maybe something is kicking off too early?

Full log: https://gist.github.com/f06097e2ac2084acf35bc2bc7fbc050c

(I remember a response from Vectorial1024 in May about this being because they were lazy with updating the code, but figured it was worth raising again since it is still happening after the update to 1.4)

@Bobby_Hill Unless they hear about it from other pawns

so this mod makes it so I can harvest organs from prisoners without the faction the prisoner was from getting mad?

and an other great update ! thanks lot !

Thank you

Mlie has been providing very important help to a lot of abandoned mods, so I would leave more time for things to be updated.

@JessieFeathers Updating all my mods, see Discord for progress

1.4?

Yes I have butchered humanlike bug too