@:<3 elevator is for connecting to a horizontal control surface at the back of your aircraft to provide extra control at speed.

@Ozruul one of it's components is a helicopter controller that I've also uploaded separately. But they were made for before the game had rotor torque effects so I'm not sure how well it'll work now. For a dual rotor design like this is intended for if the rotors turn opposite directions it won't matter as they cancel out. For setup there's a demo vehicle with this in the description but you can also look at my helicopter controllers as those have a setup guide and it should be equally applicable.

what is the elevator for?

also, does it work with a helicopter?

can you provide a setup/installation guide?

Kypuppy if you mean 4 engines as in two rows of tilting rotors this wasn't designed with that application in mind and you'd need to be very very careful about getting balance absolutely perfect, or mix the collective and pitch channels for collective on front and rear rotors. It's also possible you just have the rotors backwards, so the pitch input is in reverse flipping the vehicle over.

Im using this on a 4 engine 'plane', when i go to foward mode it just flips all over the place!

i tried it all but to no avail. I even checked the tilt sensor but i guess i found a way around it eventually

No problem figured just worth checking as that has been the problem before. Try putting the altimeter as far forward as you can get away with, or some of the suggestions in the description.

if i reverse it then it flips the opposite way, it works fine if i fly it without the controller

Last user with a similar issue they had the elevator upside down. Turn your elevators around or use an inverter gate on the signal up to the elevator. See how you get on with that!

@diwi same

Hi, i love the controller but i keep having the issue of my vtol doing backflips or frontflips when i put the engines in the forward flight position?
do you know what might be the cause of that?

would my vtol work if the wings are attached to the wings https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2905483990&searchtext=+-er+and+-ir+Verbs

@TT hmmm. Maybe something is wrong on my end. Thanks anyway

@Adventure888 I downloaded it and did that exact fix, worked fine. I used the select tool to cut the elevator fin, rotated it 180 degrees, and merged it back on. Flew fine after that.

@TT It still doesn't work

@Adventure888 flip the elevator the other way up and it's fixed

@TT

My creation works perfectly fine in heli mode, but when i switch to plane mode, the control surfaces are extremely slow, and it pitches down and then back up constantly

https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2904523995

@TT Thank you, it works perfectly now.

@Thediamondfoxy
Elevators are upside down, flip them and it'll be fine.

Hey @TT, I can't figure this thing out. the vehicle does require infinite electric an fuel atm because I haven't gotten around to that, but could you take a look at it?

https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2900105048

@TT Hey, I have been trying to use your controller for a tri-prop design VTOL without any luck. Any chance you could look at my creation and see if it's my design that's flawed or if I have to try tweeking the settings?

@Nelson reduce the amount of pitch control, e.g. less control surfaces, and move the altimeter as far forward as you can.

Having problems of it being way to sensitive when I try go in plane mode and it just pitches up and down and eventually does a flip and crashes

oh thx TT tho i dont know how it works looks really complex so well done!

Yeah it's running really smooth now, thank you a lot for the advice :)

Alright thanks for the advice, ill try to figure your suggestions out and let you know how it goes :)

@D-man MrNewJersey on Youtube has a video on this controller, hopefully that can help. I assure you it is working as literally just did some testing today on someones creation using it!

@Dax, Hi, I had a look at your aircraft. all you need to do is download some kind of Jet Engine controller for each of the engines and connect that, as you cannot directly connect the throttle for Jet engines as they just overspeed and fail. You'll also need to flip the right side airelons the other way up, or use a numerical inverter with them. With that done, it flies absolutely great!

Im back, I still havent figured it out after messing around some more.
https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2850085221
Theres the file if anyone wants to take a look for me :)

this dont work i swear ive literally spent 15 hours total on it

@tony gordo 25 it might because one pitch roller isn't reversed and they are both dacing the same direction (by facing i mean the arrows in the editer). try to switch one arrow to the oposite side.

Hey, that's really nice! I'm quite new to the game, so I stripped the demo veichle to its bones and built a simmilar one around it, but even tho I didn't mess with the logics, it keeps rolling slightly to the left when it gets to Airplane mode, do you have any idea on what might be the cause?

@TT Thank you! :)

@[82AD] Fingus I'm glad you fixed the problem and reported back how you did it! Hopefully @Dax has found a solution to their problem and if not, maybe your post can help. Hope you have a good time with your creation now you've got it flying!

@TT I had the same issue as Dax and I was getting really frustrated. I was sure it couldn't be that they were upside down but after testing shit for literally hours that was indeed the issue. I feel extremely dumb but hopefully someone else can learn from my mistake. It's working great now!

Dax: try placing the altimeter further forward on your build. you could also either increase or decrease the power of your elevators. Also check the elevators are facing the correct direction, typically this would be negative arrow facing up.

njunuk: I can confirm this is working fine, as I just started building a tiltrotor yesterday which is flying just fine with only this module controlling it.

Anyone know why my tilt rotor becomes unstable and starts pitching up and down violently after I tilt beyond 80 ish percent, its stable until I try to fully go into horizontal flight mode

its not working when i do plane mode its starts to role to side and spinning

Thanks sharknest! Looks like you've had a lot of fun with it, thanks for the credit and for sharing!

TT you said you wanted to see what we made so here is mine: https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2687201388

i watched it and figures it out thank you
i watched it the day i asked

spaceboykegan - Shown on second picture. I believe MrNewJersey has a video on building with this module you can use for guidance as well.

where is the pilot seat input

Why when i change to plane mode de vtol just start to go pitchin up and down constantly

Good to hear! Yup there's already logic in the controller to maintain an altitude but the controller doesn't actually know the real altitude. It's easier therefore intercept the control axis before the controller as you've done here.

Happy to report injecting the Altitude Hold into the composite bus upstream of this controller worked perfectly, and meant no faffing about with any of tilt rotor module.

Thanks, I thought I recalled seeing that (and you mentioning it elsewhere), but was having trouble locating it. The altitude sensor is about as far forward as I can get it and still have one installed on the aircraft. I do remember that being mentioned several times, so I was extra cautious there :D.

Still digging through the modules to figure out where the best place to insert the feed from an altitude control module and autopilot would be (i think the Alt Hold will be a simply as creating an external module to handle it, and have it include a switch to either use the arrow keys or the alt hold controller for the input on that axis through the controller bus. The A/P may be as simple and can be injected upstream, but I'm still short funds to install one yet so haven't really looked into it.)

Looking at the demo model (link in description) I've set this as positive is trailing edge down.
Another thing to check is if your altitude sensor is forward of the centerline, as this aids stability.

Ok, finally getting somewhere with my tiltrotor build thanks to this module and a who lot of YouTube. That said, what is the correct orientation for the elevator surfaces? I currently have them set to positive = trailing edge up (i.e. nose up), which is what I am used to (it also has the benefit of making the w/s and up/down behave according to convention, forward/down results in nose down). However, when I get the rotors tilted full forward, the a/c does backflips and the recovers once I tilt them back up again. I have verified the Module is unrotated from default, and is installed on centerline. it is also installed so that the gyro and sensors are slightly aft of the center of mass. Oh, and while transitioning to forward flight was finicky with the elevators flipped "upside down" before, it was possible, so is it supposed to be positive is trailing edge down for the controller to work, and I need to invert my keys somewhere else?