Nice. Thank you very much.

Made an update of this:
https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3259932217
Hope it helps anyone!

1.5?

Rimworld John Brown mod real???

Slave Rebellions Improved: Gutted 1.5

I used ILSpy to disassemble the .DLL. It created a csproject file I opened in Linux with monodevelop. I wasn't sure how to fix features related to jobs/toils for the rebellion AI, so those didn't make the cut. I gutted everything until the just minimum would compile. Now the only features working are:

1. alert for low suppression
2. alert for possible rebellion
3. if suppression < 80% (configurable) then that pawn won't initiate rebellions (but may join a grand rebellion)

I've tested this in MultiPlayer and no desyncs so far as it uses no random numbers and has no widgets. I have tested that pawns can still rebel if under 80% suppression. However, haven't played long enough to test and 100% confirm it actually works.

Happy to remove this "Gutted 1.5" fork if you or anyone continues the legacy with a proper update. Thanks!

While it does load in 1.5 without immediate errors, upon testing it seems something possibly broke in 1.5 likely preventing rebellions. When a rebellion would start, debug log pops open with errors like: `Exception ticking MyPawnName (at (160, 0, 143)): System.MissingMethodException: void RimWorld.RestUtility.WakeUp(Verse.Pawn)`. Possibly RestUtility.WakeUp() is missing in 1.5?

I'll add a bug report in the discussion.

dosent look like this is going to be updated hopefully there's an alternative soon

I've been using this as is in 1.5 without any major errors, for anyone waiting on an update.

Looking forward to a 1.5 update! Thank you for your work on this mod, it is very appreciated.

Any plans on updating this awesome mod? :)

@Rubber Ducky

use this mod's "disable improvised weapons" option to prevent them from even being considered weapons.

https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2893432492

With this mod installed I have never seen a slave rebellion actually happen. This might be because I've been keeping their suppression too high when used in conjunction with Useful Terror.

I'm going to try setting the slave rebellion threshold to 99%. This way completely cowed slaves that are permanently at 100% suppression will never start rebellions, but other slaves that do have their suppression fall will still have a chance.

any way to disable some items as a "weapon" like beer or some modded items like tools?

So it seems like since installing this mod one or more of my slaves will end up doing an escape attempt every few days despite all of them having permanent 100% suppression and having a rebellion interval of 3-5 years

I need some help...
I lost half of my colony after a rebellion

Is this compatible with useful terror?

Okay I got it. I have some slaves that are happy and well treated. I added slave collars and the "offset percent" is on the loss per day. So since they only had 10% loss per day and this collar is at least 10% the slave will no longer lose suppression. So :thumbsup:

I set it to .12 but if I'm not wrong, I still have to suppress them at least 10 per day or they'll eventually revolt (because they lose 10 per day). I don't see the point of this mod unless I'm missing something. Or will the slave collar offset prevent it indefinably?

Hey Rimmians!

I see some of us have the same issue, the tooltip for the sliders would have you believe that setting them to 0% will disable that feature, but this is wrong. Doing so will reset the sliders to their default values (60%/80%). The developer of the mod has stated that this is an intended feature, and as of basic testing I can confirm this. That being said, it seems that rule only comes into play when you set the sliders to 0%. The solution is to set your sliders to the absolutely closest number you can get to zero, without setting the slider to zero.

Doing this, for now, prevents the sliders from regaining their default values upon menu exit.


tldr; Set it as low as possible, just not to zero itself.

@Kenpachi
Yes in the settings you can change the amount of suppression required for a rebellion.
"0% will disable rebellions"

I'm here for the same reason!(including the other mod author) Except all of my slaves are thralls from vanilla psyonics enhanced. I was honestly surprised when they rebelled.

A similar mod creator recommended that we use this one. I'm about to create a new game after my current playthrough, and want to give this a try. Are we able to remove the need to suppress if we want? Wanted to play without having to worry about slaves trying to escape. Thanks for the hard work regardless.

Hey there, would it be possible to get a setting to choose at with percentage your colonists start supressing so it is less often? and maybe also that slaves stop dropping items thy carry?

hey @Hate me,

could you elaborate on the answer to @NachoToast ?

why would resetting the sliders and changing the settings be intended?
there is no indication of this behavior in the description or the settings page.

this isn't just visual: the actual settings are reset every time the game loads it seems.
is this also intended?

wow i didnt know vanilla slave rebellions worked like mental breaks. they really didnt actually try to escape? thats crazy!

thanks for updating!

@NachoToast it's intended behaviour.

Anyone else getting an issue where setting both option sliders to 0% resets them to their default values?

I see it says 1.4 now but in-game it's still marked as not working, is that an error?

Please update to 1.4

@Miriouki I'll get to it, once 1.4 is out to release

Hello, could you update this mod to 1.4 please ?

Nevermind, they have a trait that means they can't be suppressed. My bad.

Does this mod remove the ability to increase suppression by beating slaves? I beat the **** out of a slave and their supression is not going up at all.

Funnily @Hyomoto is the reason I picked this mod versus another. He still judged this one, but he completely roasted a different suppression mod.

ahhhh PERFECT, exactly what i was looking for!
(if it keeps it's promises)

Compatible with prison labor ,mod?

@kongkim Yes. It states by default slaves won't rebel if suppression is above 60%. 75% increases the margin needed to maintain control. So, this is correct.

Stupid question, just me not understanding :)
But the nr 1. if i change the 60% to 75% the slaves will not rebel if they have suppression above 75%?? is that right?

Good work man

can this happen to ai or only slave owning players

Same question as QueenBlade...

Does this work with "Prisoners should fear turrets"...?

@Ronin yes

Is it safe to add to an existing game?

@horsebrackets Really liked the idea of the first one, not much the second.
I think slaves don't want to run the colony they are slaves of, they just want to go to their home faction.

2 Things i wish slaves did in Rimworld.

1. Some ability to recruit them into citizenship. Perhaps after a year or two of servitude it could be an option for them. Perhaps the faction leader could have a say in it using the same mechanism used now for trials. Maybe thats the faction tradition, everybody is a slave for the first year or so... like hazing. If you survive it, your reward is that you are freed and optionally can become a citizen. Addtionally, love affairs with citizens could provide a shortcut for this process.

2. If a slave rebellion is successful enough, they should be able to overturn the whole thing. Slaves become masters and masters become slaves.

So can we add this mid play through?

I made a Chinese patch, If you are interested, please click
https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2606842063

@Hyomoto

Thats called roleplay. You wanna have a slave-owning roman empire? The go ahead. What about a Warhammer 40k faction with slaves? Go ahead. Lots of empires in the past had slaves, so may as well play it out and add more complications to your way to power.

While nothing requires you *explicitly* to be a cruel master, why bother having slaves at all if you are going to treat them like colonists? Make them colonists. That would be a nice thing to do.