Quandale mushroom spotted at local crawlspace

morningstars (the spiky meatball looking guys) dont move if you dont move, and get faster the longer you move.
i tested getting pinned against a wall in a few locations and knocking back the morningstar with tears on .1 speed lets you escape (though it tends to deal around two or three damage trying to escape)
maybe ill tweak the room a bit though

there was the bishop enemy who was in the upper section of the room, and in the lower one there was the fkn meat guy that comes up when you kill him. he pins you to the wall and if you have low speed you can't push him to get into a ladder

do you know the room name? or at least what the enemy looked like so i can go take a look at the room

nope, not for me. i once got absolutely stuck on a run because some enemy pinned me to a wall i couldnt jump over, while having shield from that one enemy

好吧，看来是我运气不太好

there is a 33% chance for each of those to be open
每边都有 33% 的机会打开

我遇到一个地形，梯子完全被挡住了，下面放了两个道具，我相信这应该不是恶作剧而是一个bug，对吗？我有截图分享在我的截图库，如果有需要你可以查看一下

i think its mostly just a learning curve - like the mod description says; it makes them more dangerous but theres also greater rewards (and the ones that dont have greater rewards tend to be (but arent always) far less dangerous)
i personally dont have much issue dodging a lot of the stuff but thats probably because 1) i made the mod and 2) ive spent a ton of time in these crawlspaces whilst testing and playing runs

i really like that theyre big but like i dont like that you like almost get hit every time you enter one and that makes me disable the mod most of the time when im doing a run, really good mod btw its really cool

(maybe there are a couple of crawlspaces that arent doable on low speed or are unfair that slipped through the cracks though. if there are any specific rooms id say send a screenshot or the room name or something so i can take a look at them)

they can fly which makes a majority of crawlspaces really trivial
and also; the can just look at the thing and think if its worth the risk to try get the item - risk vs reward. i think every crawlspaces can just be left if the player chooses to do so. some will have you fall past a point of no return, sure, but thats part of it - 'am i willing to fall down this hole i might take damage in" (and even that can be cheesed if the player wants to exit and re enter the run to appear back at the starting ladder)

but.. tainted lost and lost, how do they do it

i tested every one that would have issues with speed on minimum speed, and some do require resources to do damageless (or the whole gimmick is you need to take damage; sorta like a curse room)
some of them are insanely difficult damageless on low speed though

some are literally impossible damageless if you have no bombs or not alot of speed or if you dont have flight, etc

honestly i had no idea that golden trinkets would spawn without them unlocked, most stuff will just be replaced by another version of itself or something when its not unlocked yet
i mean i dont think its that big a deal, i dont recall using many golden trinkets, and its not like a few random golden trinkets are completely game changing

There do seem to be some layouts that can give golden trinkets despite them being locked, although I'm not complaining about the free golden telescope lens.

fair enough

what rooms? i thought i was pretty thorough with my testing - i tested every room with threats in them on .1 speed and theyre all doable damageless (unless the point is you have to walk through a blood bank or something to get to the loot)
some are real strong for the player, but those are much rarer
you can always just not do the crawlspace if you think it looks too hard though; you can still leave crawlspaces if there are enemies in it

there are some really unfair rooms...

you need to place "gravity' tiles on the rightmost walls to open them up, and leave the right door 'active" or open
also, youll always spawn like 4 tiles away from the entrance, in the middle of the screen if you leave the black market, and they dont work very well in long rooms (tall rooms are fine though)
its a bit finicky and basement renovator testing doesnt always line up with how stuff will work in-game

i've been trying to work on a mod myself that adds more rooms in general but when i got to crawlspaces and black markets, i could not figure out how to add entryways to the black markets. i've tried the basement renovator mod and the room editor provided by the game itself and could not seem to get anything to work. could you possibly tell me your secrets?

yeah that's just part of the normal game, you can clip through the walls of the crawlspace in certain situations and get to the error room. nothing to do with the mod itself

So I'm unsure if this is an issue or not, but I was playing a tainted forgotten run with intentions of making it to the beast. I had found a crawlspace and tossed the forgotten at a chest on an upper ledge. Doing so sent the forgotten through a wall and into an I AM ERROR room, forcing me to go to the womb </3

yknow, i did consider making gideon crawlspaces appear for a few of the 0.01 weight rooms that either contain a specific strong item or have error room access
only reason i wound up not doing it was because testing basically boils down to "play with we need to go deeper until something goes wrong,' which is pretty slow, and im not sure if having those rare crawlspaces with the gideon tileset could cause any issues
but yknow what, sure, ill make some rare rooms use the gideon tileset right now. if stuff gets wacky and bad i can just undo it

I think it'd be neat to use the gideon tilesets in normal crawlspaces, but I definitely think it should be very uncommon, maybe only the rarest variants use them. You get a gideon crawlspace like once every 50-60 hours of play if even that often, so seeing those tiles more would be coolio.

have you tried uninstalling and re-downloading the mod? maybe something went wrong downloading it or somefin

thats really weird because i play jacob and esau a lot and theres nothing in the mod that should really effect any of the characters. i even just opened the game right now with no mods but this on and they seem to be fine
do you have other mods on that could maybe somehow conflict or something?
really not sure what might be causing that

this mod seems to make jacob and esau crash on startup, not sure how but the crashing only stops when I disable this mod

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i just tested it briefly with the moar crawlspaces mod; and crawlspaces from both mods can show up
like i said in a previous comment tho; no idea if therell be rooms that are super similar between the mods; or how balancing will work between them

Does this work with other mods that add more crawlspaces?

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i dont see why it wouldnt work
i dunno how the balancing will work between the two mods though, or if theres any rooms thatd be super similar

I wonder if this won't coflict with "moar crawlspaces" mod, that basically also adds new crawlspaces.

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