does this work in 1.5?

@Valentine the protogen - No, you can just build these already if you have the research and a pawn.

Can only mechanoid controllers build them?

How.............

t-the voices... their... so loud now... so.... loud..

X_X...

Okie dokie, while I wasn't able to locate the cause of the sudden issue, as neither of the mods I thought seem to be the final culprit, I will say, it does seem switching to VFEMachineBase doesn't seem to have any noticable ill effects on any of the mods that follow the .xml set up you use. Actually, I can't say I notice a difference.

I am not super versed in the handling of pawns, however, this could be a solution. If I learn anything further, I'll again report in. I will be using the mod with the base and power edit, and see if anything weird happens.

Aye, relaxing and enjoying our time is a necessity. I mean no rush; it doesn't seem like a massive/widespread issue, anyways. Mostly wanting to ensure if there is a mod incompatibility you and others are aware of it, so nobody has the same issues.

Anywho, I'm off to bed. Keep up the good work. If I end up fiddling on my end and coming up with another solution or even get more info, I'll report here.

Pweehhh..
I don't wanna look like a bad modder but I wanna relax n' play Rimworld for a while. I'll take a look some other time X_X

As for modlist, I did send a log earlier, but deleted the message when I condensed down, as I wasn't sure how useful it was going to be.

https://gist.github.com/HugsLibRecordKeeper/79f3280cd5fbd00e4f118c5ec5a2a0ca

Here it is. A few mods got yoinked, but nothing that I'd assume be a culprit. Safe to remove. I only removed after I resolved the issue, so I know this wasn't caused by that.

Hope it helps, even a little.

Okay, decided to get my lazy ass up and to my computer, just a little bit before I sleep.

I see the difference. VFE - Mechanoids bots use the VFEMachineBase, and ones via addons (such as yours) use BaseMechanoidKind. So, I'd assume that's likely the difference, though I'd imagine it's also a limitation or ease of access difference.

I apologize if I was accusatory any, I do not mean any ill will. I admire your work.

It's not a big deal, mostly wanted to report and see if there was anything known, or if I had found something. I'm going to go on a limb and assume Visible Raid Points might be the issue? It is a newer to my pack, and what I thought was just a simple little mod, appears to have a lot going on, now that I'm poking around.

I might remove it (I have a weird feeling it could brick my save however), as it's not that important to me, see if I can recreate the results without it on a separate devtest world.

Changing up both mods' combat power, then

Damn. Alright.

I'll look deeper into VFE - M and how they do it. It didn't appear they needed super high combat power to prevent things such as the little Roomba on their end from spawning in raids.

Didn't look too far beyond that. Was mostly poking around for power references.

Already did.

@Fishcookie

It's more so that they have such a high combat power level that they don't get selected to be placed in raids? I have no idea what kind of mod would cause that, and I don't have your modpack.

You could open this mod's folder in the mod list and edit the xml yourself, and see if that works.

Deleted all my messages so I can compact them into this one. The, while mildly amusing, 99999 combat power level of the bots in the .xml causes raids (perhaps caused by other mods alongside, my list is huge, unsure) to spawn full sized endgame 10k Mechanoid clusters, at pre-Medieval tech level and low wealth.

I could be completely missing a joke here, as that -could- be intended, however, if not simply putting this here as that is probably otherwise not intentional. If not, perhaps lowering them to pre-lancer CombatPower of maybe 100-150, could do it?

You have to enable butchering friendly mechanoids in the machining table. Vanilla automatically disables it.

How do you break down the dead bots to harvest materials?

Sounds alright

Tiny patch that allows the bigger bots to haul: https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2887573404

Thank you very much

@Capataina

Dependency on Makeshift Robots removed until it is updated for 1.4

Updated for 1.4!
Had to make some changes to get it to work, though.

Thanks

I'll see if it works in 1.4, then I'll update it

Will you be doing a 1.4 update

@bumrum

I didn't do anything specifically for WThack so I don't think you can hack them.

i was wondering are these guys compatable with what the hack?

VFE:M's mechanoid miniturret fires 3 shots compared to vanilla's miniturret.
Sorry if the balancing is pretty wack.

Sorry, just ignore me. I was just reading the description where it says these are weaker than the normal bots and the normal ones use the miniturret as a gun. And the mini turret is so weak I think a 0skill pawn with a short bow out DPS it. Tho I could be wrong.

?

Not sure how you could get weaker than firing 2 inaccurate bullets every 5 seconds but ok.

is.. that a roomba?

you really said: "Romba with a knifed taped on it" and made it an official combatant

I kind of want a cheap melee bot thats not stabby. Maybe a big riot shield toting one that moves kind of slow and does worse damage than stabby, but has a good chance of leaving wounded captures and takes a ton of punishment.

Stabby will need a friend. Make a pink version, give it a lil' bow, and name it Stabitha

@Mad Marl

I don't think that would be economically practical

!!!

@Bonible I was joking when i said Release the claymore roomba you mad lad.

Now i have no excuses about letting enemies escape ;'(

roomba with a log or beer bottle when? gotta fit in with those pirates that attack with you just random stuff

yes, rename the anger roomba to stabby

Would it be possible to rename the Makeshift Knife Cleaner to Stabby

@Capataina Ooah, sure thing

@Sel Und Irae
@Enderjed (though I haven't gotten around to a flamethrower or chainsaw)
@ClockworkC0rvus
@SQman

My try at making a landmine roomba.. (and glock roomba)
https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2860639557
It's. A bit crap. To say the least. But I tried!

Wait 'till you see a roomba with a glock.

[Mod will be separate from this one..]

aight, you sold me on the knife roomba

Ey, no worries. Very happy this exists. Make more bots! <3

@Kel'Thuzad

I've no idea how to do that, sorry's..!
But I'll look into the code when I can.. and maybe I'll see..

Hmm.. if I'm gonna make combat roombas, I'll do it for a separate mod
Alright! ^w^