@Tchaikovksy_Bright
The chaos of the 4.0 update and my busy real life schedule has not done wonders for my mod work, let's wait for the 4.1 update

Hello, are you still planning on releasing a version of this for the empire shipset? I really appreciate the work btw :)

@Tchaikovksy_Bright
This isn't the first time this has been suggested so I might just do that for the next update cycle when Stellaris 4.0 comes out.

Hi is it possible if you can create a mod similar to this for the empire shipset, maybe add tie interceptors or tie defenders?

@asae atez ampan Hello there! Sorry for the slow response, only now considering using this mod.after a break from the game

Yes I did have a look and saw that my comments weren't entirely accurate, or rather specific enough. I had been reading the wiki in the recent past to learn a bit but what was at the heart of my misunderstanding with the cruisers was that (apart from an apparent error with the wiki article) the way the Arquitens mostly appears in The Clone Wars, and largely has no appearances later in the main canonical shows and movies gives the impression that the older Arquitens and Acclamators were favoured initially, but the Venator quickly became the favoured choice for capital ship almost as soon as it was introduced during the war (The Venators as you know quickly became known as the "Jedi Cruisers" for that reason)

The Venators were first shown in Revenge of the Sith but retroactively added to episodes of The Clones Wars and other series airing after that. So if you just watch the older shows and movies (and don't see the entire article as you gloss through either) it looks as though there's hints towards the trend that certain ships will eventually be phased out in favour of newer models, though not entirely for some time.

Makes sense if Acclamators became outdated, they added bigger battleships during the war, and then they inspired the more modern Star Destroyer models. Perhaps "Phased-out" was a strong term even if my assertion on the Arquitens was accurate, which I will refer to next. What I stated suggested one was completely replaced with the other, instead of being seen as the new ship of choice, which was my intent.

But yes I can see in the appearances section that they served alongside each other all through the Clone Wars, and in the history section that both were used well into the regime.
While my chronological re-watch of the franchise mostly excludes the newer stuff apart from Mandolorian and Kenobi as yet, I hadn't noticed at the time that Moff Gideon's ship is apparently an Arquitens, or rather one of the Class 546 command cruisers. This appearance is referenced on the Wookiepedia article, but (and here's the article mistake I mentioned) it was omitted from the appearances section at the very end of it.

There's also a junior novel that has Leia get ambushed after Hoth by three of these refitted Arquitens, and that Elsbeth was escorted to Coruscant by a few of them while on board a proper Star Destroyer? But I'm also wondering how I'm expected to react to an apparent retcon and have known there was an error with the article as well - It's clear from the cruiser being scrapped on Bracca, Leia getting chased by Arquitens and Gideon getting a upscaled one, there's been a trend of newer entries retroactively adding republic-era starships into regular use/active service during the civil war, which makes sense but is news to someone returning to the franchise after EP VI to play catch up, and distinctly remembers these designs weren't depicted before The Phantom Menace. But were themselves added retroactively to act as the inspiration for the Civil War era ships. So hopefully that clears up what I meant there

But also true Torrent was phased out as I mentioned before, I just didn't know the reason why (in-universe lore reason was confirmed instead of pure design choice), so that stands,
And I could clarify in agreement with you that, yes, the ARCs were heavy fighters with multi-role, as opposed to using the more generic term "fighter" alone, but that would be splitting hairs on an already long comment ;) Only got as far as Fallen Order in the chronology but hope to pick this franchise up again soon, for now I will be getting ready for 4.0 and hopefully still being able to use these mods *fingers crossed* - Fun to discuss this, please let me know your thoughts!

You can tell I really want all the fighters can't you

@chungus amongus I'm sorry bro but you've gotten... quite a bit wrong there. The arc 170 was a heavy righter with a torpedo armament, making it used as amulti-role vs the Ywing's mostly dedicated light bomber role.

V19 torrent got entirely replaced in the last year of the war by the Vving

Arquitens light cruiser was never phased out and remained in use up to and beyond the rise of the empire. The Venator filled it's own role as fleet cruiser/carrier and was seen on numerous occasions supported by the MUCH SMALLER light cruiser. THis was the most wrong statement of them all. That's like saying the ,mahan class destroyer got phased out in favor of the des moines class heavy cruiser even though they filled ENTIRELY different roles.

That's ok! Life gets in the way too! Just got off the phone and saw this, good timing

Aw man, I would have loved to have all three, though the prequel movies seem to show one fighter over the other, the V-Wings and ARCs were both fighters, and with the Y-Wing as their bomber of choice they all saw use right up to the end of the Clone Wars and even beyond.
But the Torrent/V-Wing switch,deffo still makes sense as they were perhaps quietly retconned or ignored in favour of the "rule of cool" as time went on, as opposed to the definite loreful phasing out of Arquitens cruisers in favour of the Venator, so this mod mostly helps for accuracy -
And gosh there's getting back into Star Wars and finding I didn't realise how many other troops and vehicle variants there are just for the Clone Wars alone that I'd love to see! I'm very into Star Wars again, going through Obi-Wan Kenobi for the 1st time rn

Totally understand the limitations though, maybe I can make a suggestion to Paradox to tweak that and make it possible to mod further if people want to, please let me know what your thoughts are on custom fleets from a modder's perspective

Maybe I can Bio-engineer some Amoeba Flagella myself? XD
Either way I'm super excited to play this mod, and sign up to defend the Republic!
Thank you for your work and for replying!

@The Rot King
Sorry for the late response (I don't seem to be getting notifications regarding comments for some reason), but yes, they should replace those models.

@Superior General Will it also replace the Starfighters/Bombers added by Funnel's Additions because they use the same model skin, or are they completely separate entities just using the models?

@Twilight Sparkle If they are separate then the ones in Funnel's mod might remain as Torrents and Y-Wings, as they are a separate unit type called Starfighters and Bombers :D
Haven't played this mod yet to be sure but here's hoping for the both of us

@Twilight Sparkle
Not with the way vanilla stellaris currently exists

Is there a way to have both?

@Superior General Delvardus
OH! I read the desc wrong, I thought only half the mod was kicking in, I'll have to check the files and see why the models aren't updating (Though I would like V19s and ARC-170s as those are my favorites xD)
My bad!

@KKlaryon
I'm not quite sure I am understanding this. When this submod is being used you should get V-wings and ARC-170s and when it is not you should get V19s and Y-wings.

is there any reason why it would be replacing the V-wing but not the Y-wing? I got the V19 but the Y-wing is still present :(

@Camalie
Basically, but also make sure that the mesh is also added in a gfx file as well

I think I've got the basic idea of it but I just want to make sure, if I wanted to replace the colossus model from the main mod to be the Death Star, would I just have to duplicate the one from your empire mod and put it into the proper folder of this one then replace one mesh line or is it more involved than that?

Wow man. Thanks for the rapid response and the detailed workaround. You truly rock. Keep up the great work!

@jskorey18

There is actually and quite frankly you don't even need this mod since the models are already in the base shipset. All this mod does is overwrite 1 file for those that don't want to get technical mess around with them themselves (especially since whatever changes people make are overwritten whenever I update these mods).

Basically just go into the "republic_01_entities_Strike_Craft" ASSET file in the republic ships mod and replace the fighter entity's "republic_v19_mesh" with "republic_ARC170_mesh".

Then go into the "republic_models_fighters" GFX file and remove the hashtags for the ARC-170 mesh so that the model actually loads (you won't have to do this step when I update to 3.8 as I am doing a bit of re-organization with all my sets).

Great mod! Works super well. Is there any way to edit it to only change the v-19 torrent? I am a big fan of the clone wars era y-wing as a bomber in stellaris and I don't want to blindly mess with the files to achieve that

Anyone know if there's a downscaled patch about???

@azurewrath44
Then I am unsure what is happening as the models are correctly replaced on my end

Yes

@azurewrath44
I assume you loaded this mod after Republic Ships right, and were using those Republic Ships as your selected ships?

This mod did not work for me. I just had the ordinary strike craft. No idea why it didnt work. I had the one required mod.

@Devil_Devonaire
Doesn't matter, so long as the colors is after the base mod (honestly, just load it after)

put before or after the colors mod?

@Germanicus
It will only work with my modded sets, that is how it's intended

my question was if you could use this as a standalone mod to replace strike craft but i guess it would only work with your modded ship set is that right?

i like the original mod and i get that the venator is a carrier but i wish you could just use it#s hull for a battleship fit too

But the mod required is not the NSC version , so i guess i can not use it because Im running the NSC version of Republic Ships..

@Hex_LovelyTrapper
Already works fine with the NSC version

Are you also going to replicate this mod for your NSC version ?

@Germanicus
Not quite sure what you are asking, this mod is meant simply to replace a couple of models in my shipset and that is it...

@Kenny Tachikawa
If there is enough demand for alternate models like there was in the case of the Republic strike craft, then sure! (though the CIS set already has the Vulture droid as it's fighter strike craft)

will you be doing this for the cis like vulture droids etc or other factions?

Does this work for just the base game as well?

Thanks a lot! :)

@Batsch the Great
Yea, eventually

nice!

do you also plan a first order shipset ?

Definitely worthy of Grand Moff for this!

Thank you so much for this! I had previously managed to kitbash ARC-170s into a personal version of the mod, but that had always been a bit of a hack job on my part, and I don't think I've seen any other mods on the workshop with V-Wings! And it's great to have it all in an official version of the mod!