Whats the update @flynn

I'm going to test it out on 1.6 and will report any issues I encounter, godspeed

hai, update for 1.6 please <3

Just added the 1.5 version tag

@Just, @freXamp, @ McLets: Thanks for the responses, guys.

still creates an error upon loading a mod without 1.5 in its file, but adding it manually makes it go away, I think.

I also confirm that the mod still works.

I also *very* briefly checked what is new in 1.5 for modding ( https://rimworldwiki.com/wiki/Modding_Tutorials/RimWorld_1.5_Mod_Updates ) and didn't find anything, which will affect this mod.
And this mod is XML mod, so no assemblies too

I have checked all of the launchers. They seem to be completely OK with 1.5.

Just checking in, does anyone have input on if this works well with 1.5? I'd like to change the version info in the 'about' file if it does.

we will wait

Sorry y'all, I've been taking a break from Rimworld and forgot to update the version file for 1.5! It should still work, but I'll push an update whenever possible

Super !

Still works in 1.5 it would appear. Probably just needs the version info updated.

1.5?

1.5 please

Update to 1.5, please

It's a terrifyingly cool mod. The projectile sound effect and the flame effect are awesome.

Phenomenal update. No more editing .xmls!

Updated! Let me know if the new bulk values make sense.

To add on to the previous comment (damn ye, character limits) this will generally make all launchers and their ammo easier to carry around, with less drastic - but still meaningful - bulk differences across the board.

So after reading your comment I decided to dig deeper into how to balance the bulk of AT weaponry and I think I reached an acceptable solution.

In CE, weapons had their bulk calculated according to the formula (length in meters * 10), whereas ammo - including canisters for reusable launchers - uses a more complicated volumetric estimate. This is *fine* when the ammo is small, but results in rockets having wildly inflated bulk values compared to their launchers. After two days of playing around with formulas, I came up with a more sensible way of calculating the bulk of rocket launchers and respective ammo, using the M72 LAW bulk of 6.3 as a reference.

The new formula should hopefully yield more forgiving and, above all, coherent values. I also took the liberty of recalculating and patching in new bulk values for the RPG-7 from CE Guns and the Carl Gustaf from Gun Nut. The XML error fix and the new bulk values will be uploaded tomorrow!

Well I guess I can just use an exoframe and have a large backpack and it will work out. But somehow real world soldiers manage to carry an RPG-7 or SMAW or similar, 3 extra rockets, plus a rifle on top of that and they don't need an exoframe to do it. rimworld pawns just need more boot camp I guess, idk.

The reusable launchers (SMAW and RPG-32) this mod implements use ammo that was added by CE, so any changes to their mass/bulk should be directly addressed to CE's mod team; I don't think it would be wise for me to override item values that were undoubtedly well researched and balanced.

In any case, I tried to translate some of the advantages of reusable launchers IRL to this mod, namely the higher range and accuracy allowed by non-discardable optical elements. I'll see what else can be done to improve balance, though.

Also many thanks to the previous commenters who found errors in the XML; I'll push a fix ASAP!

What's the point in the launchers being reusable if the ammo is so heavy and bulky that you can really only carry one or two of them? I mean am I supposed to send in my rocket man with no armor and no backup weapon just to squeeze a 3rd rocket in there? especially when I could carry EIGHT of the disposable launchers from base CE instead for the same weight and bulk...

It seems that in M141.xml there should be removed "<explosiveRadius>1.5</explosiveRadius>" from the <projectile Class="CombatExtended.ProjectilePropertiesCE">

@tanitanino, you can do it also temporary yourself. Modify file "<...>\steamapps\workshop\content\294100\2919231977\Defs\ThingDefs\M141.xml".
Either remove or comment the line 118. Commented:
<!-- <explosiveRadius>1.5</explosiveRadius> -->

Not sure if it is the recent CE update, but I've got an error linked to your mod.

https://gist.github.com/HugsLibRecordKeeper/f9e0702f2224126380f1b34321aa617f

Thanks!

Same to your entire collection, @Keshash ♥️ I hope we get a Ammo Variety - Shells mod one day!

Awesome mod

HELL YES. ANTI-BUILDING WEAPONS. FINALLY SOMETHING FOR MY COMBAT ENGINEERS

The new update adds the M141 Bunker Defeat Munition and rebalances some launchers to (hopefully) make them more attractive to use.

After reading some comments and doing some soul-searching, I found the SMAW was vastly preferred over the other launchers due to its exceptional range, so the RPG-32 was made cheaper to craft, less bulky and had its range slightly increased. At the same time, the MATADOR and RPG-28 also had their ranges increased a wee bit - in the latter's case due to its dangerous fragmentation cloud.

@avali gaming and @Rooskey: sadly the ammo defs come from Combat Extended and I don't have the power to modify them on my own. But if you bring up those points on the CE Discord channel, or raise an issue on GitHub, they could try and balance ammo weight :)

this mod's content is still one of my favorite go-tos for anti-mechanoid launchers, but i agree with Rooskey. i'd really like if the ammo weight could be reduced a little.. it'd make the launchers a lot more usable.

This is still one of my favorite mods, but I always find myself editing the files to change the ammo weight. Ammo weight should be 2/3rds weight to reflect the weight of RPG-7 ammo balancing in vanilla CE, even though it's not necessarily "realistic". Disposable launchers could use the same treatment., Just my 2¢!

This mod needs a javelin missile.

Once again, thanks! The next update will probably consist of the M141 BDM (a disposable RPG with high building damage, ideal for breaching walls), the Panzerfaust 3 and the RG-6. The first two will also require new ammo defs and textures, so it could take a while 😅

@Tonas
I think 40x53 is exclusively used by Combat Extended: Attachments' "AK-47 with GP25" and a couple of mods that add stationary launchers. Gun Nut - Ukrainian Firearms is one.

@Rooskey

Thanks for the suggestions! I was thinking about adding something like the Panzerfaust 3 (provided I find a good spot for it on my stats sheet) or reusable rocket launchers, but grenade launchers could also be a good idea 👀 are the 40x53 nades used by any CE mod that you know of?

@变成光守护天依小姐

Awesome, thanks for finding the typo! I can push a quickfix today or tomorrow 😀

text error here：
<defName>CE_Launchers_RPGThirtyTwo</defName>
<label>RPG-32</label>
<description>A heavy and reusable rocket-propelled grenade launcher. While bulky, the RPG-28 is an extremely useful weapon when dealing with mechanoids and other heavily-armored targets.</description>

It Should be RPG-32 not RPG- 28

@Tonas
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Hmmm, it's hard to find any good ideas that aren't already in Harkon's future Gun Nut - Launchers & Explosives. Would love to see the RG-6 grenade launcher, the Russian version of the Milkor MGL that fires 40x53mm grenades. It would integrate well with CE: Attachments.

Other than that, maybe something like a Konkurs/TOW would be cool. It could have an extremely high Aiming Efficiency (to represent the guidance), but cost Advanced Components in its ammo. Or it could use the Guided Shot framework from the Vanilla Psycasts Expanded patch?

Again, thanks for this mod!


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Gun Nut spreadsheet: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1hALsL_c0q-UoS-iV4tKlJ1O--8PLKFDU6rPjiW-cC5A/edit#gid=1184816459

I didn't expect the Squad rocket sounds but fucking lets go! Time to load up the heli and drop some rockets off on some hostile tribes!

The latest update adds custom launch sounds (yes, from Squad), discarded casings and filth, and some balance changes!

Hmm, I wasn't very keen on modifying mass stats as those are based on real numbers - but IIRC, I lowered the bulk and aiming time to make it ideal for quick, short range engagements. I'll push an update today or tomorrow with rebalancing and (possibly) new sounds!

oh, speaking of balance! i'd recommend, balance-wise, adjusting the weight and bulk of the RPG-28; i am aware it is a rather hefty weapon IRL, but it would be nice if it were made a bit lighter. i haven't used the matador or the SMAW yet, but i can definitely say that the weight of the RPG-28 is a bit limiting.

Lookin' forward to it. Hope you can get something meaty like Squad for the firing sounds.

Agreed - I've been looking around for sound samples to better represent recoilless rifles and short-firing RPGs, so the next update will probably be balance and sound tweaks

The only thing I wish this mod has is the sound effects from Squad, specifically the SMAW and RPG-28. Love the sound effects there. But besides that I love this mod, it's always nice to have more explosive firepower on the Rim.

Thanks! I might get back to this mod soon and add a few more launchers (provided I can make them feel unique), so drop any ideas in the comments :D

God bless, man, we really needed this mod. Hits different, especially with those disposables-- the little Sights Efficiency buff finally makes them competitive with reloadables.

whats the range?