Kenshi
Sneaking is Sus
43 Comments
Sullis 8 Jun @ 5:20pm 
That's awesome. I will send you the bounty to your PayPal, thank you sir!
Lawh  [author] 8 Jun @ 1:42am 
I shall claim that bounty. The mod now allows what you requested. Thanks!

If there are any issues with it, let me know and I'll sort it out.
Sullis 7 Jun @ 12:39pm 
$50 bounty to whoever makes the in-town reaction to sneaking less severe. I get caught sneaking 1 second and the guards will aggro me repeatedly even if I have been downed and gotten back up several times. Is it possible to at least not incur a bounty from it?
Mitsurugi 30 May @ 8:07am 
This would be perfect if they gave warnings in the city like they do for trespassing.

I disagree 100% with "If you get warned the mod looses it's meaning". Sneaking is sus, not an overt assassination attempt on Lord Tengu himself, in broad daylight, in the middle of town.

Getting spotted trying to sneak shouldn't instantly aggro the entire city and surrounding locale. It should be met with a "stop that" and THEN it be considered a crime. The frame work is already there for trespassing. You could make the "stop doing that" timer super short. like 1-2 seconds and then they all aggro.
Mitsurugi 30 May @ 8:07am 
I also 120% disagree with sneaking being sus, at all, outside of towns. It is a harsh, unforgiving, world in Kenshi and I often sneak to avoid hostiles but almost never steal. Obviously this isn't inside a town, but it shouldn't be any of the guards dang concern if I am crouch walking around a sand dune or in the middle of a jungle if it's outside their walls.

I get that ultimately it's your mod. You do you. But there is a reason so many people are pointing this out as an issue and asking for options.
RobinBobin00 23 Jan @ 4:03pm 
I discovered an issue where some NPCs are being caught in Sho-Battai for theft, even though no theft occurred. Strangely, it mostly happens to Tech Hunters.
c0pa79 22 Jan @ 11:42pm 
can't you offer a light version where in towns warning are given initially and outside towns it's deactivated?
trouter 28 Dec, 2024 @ 11:55am 
(that said, this does kind of open up a strategy where one fast runner can crouch to bait the guards into chasing them, then the actual thief can steal valuables at their leisure, not sure if that was intentional or not)
trouter 28 Dec, 2024 @ 11:55am 
Cool idea, but accidentally crouching for a fraction of a second causes the entire town to collapse on my ass harder than Whiterun on a chicken puncher. It's like prison - the moment you bend down, everyone wants a piece of you. Shopkeepers sprint from their stores, gladly leaving their valuables unguarded for a chance to sprint several kilometers into untamed wilderness. Bar patrons abandon their drinks in a mad rush to be beaten over the head by cannibals beyond the gates of World's End. Shit, even the Shinobi Thieves rush out the moment they hear someone might have tried to move around without wearing a suit of plate armor that clanks like a Beak Thing's dinner bell. Isn't stealing their grift? Or have they abandoned half of their moniker and decided to clean drains instead, like Coca-Cola?

10/10 would crouch in a major city again, just wait until they hear about the Slav squat
Lawh  [author] 17 Dec, 2024 @ 8:11am 
Not at all, it's for everyone to enjoy in any way they see fit. Have a good one!
maks052 17 Dec, 2024 @ 7:51am 
Hello. Your mod is great! I used it in my maksimum kenshi mod set, I hope you won't mind. I will definitely indicate your mod in the list of used mods. Thank you in advance.
Jelly Creeper 21 Nov, 2024 @ 8:47am 
I dunno, it turns the game harder but kind of breaks immersion for me. If the game had a feature that only one guard that catches you tried to take you to jail trough dialogue then sure, but going straight to blows with the whole town is kinda wack. It's a good idea either way, I just don't think the way kenshi works responds well to it. Can't even roleplay stalking someone in town without alerting the whole city into a fight.
Lawh  [author] 14 Oct, 2024 @ 7:26pm 
That I probably can't help at the moment as the dialogue is fluff. You can however edit it and I think upload a mod with some actual dialogue.
crunk aint dead 14 Oct, 2024 @ 6:08pm 
i love this as a mechanic actually, just needs slightly less corny dialogue
Lawh  [author] 9 Oct, 2024 @ 8:45am 
Don't sneak in towns.
Franklin Saint 9 Oct, 2024 @ 8:43am 
then how are you gonna check if you can sneak or not? cause sometime at night they can still see you or when you sleep you accidently press sneak?
Lawh  [author] 9 Oct, 2024 @ 6:12am 
If you get warned, the mod loses it's meaning. You can keep sneaking around and stop before capture, and then do it again.
Franklin Saint 9 Oct, 2024 @ 6:01am 
need a warning they arrest too fast
Lawh  [author] 30 Sep, 2024 @ 12:57pm 
Great, good work on the translation.
FieryPhoenix 30 Sep, 2024 @ 9:04am 
I'm always listing original author's names and providing a link to the original mod in my translations.
Lawh  [author] 30 Sep, 2024 @ 8:55am 
That's nice. You can set me up as a contributor I think in case someone would for some reason want to know that, but all is well.
FieryPhoenix 30 Sep, 2024 @ 8:33am 
Made a Russian translation for this mod.
If you have any issues with it existing, contact me.
https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3340654919
Count 14 Jun, 2024 @ 4:33pm 
Indeed, this is a wonderful mod! Definitely seems like it should be vanilla
nIKNAKNUIE 1 Jun, 2024 @ 4:48am 
10 out of 10 man, my god why is this not in the base game? I am experiencing catharsis right now. I love you.
SR 1 May, 2024 @ 8:05pm 
Suggest giving the guards threat detection and give the players 6 seconds threat dialogue text warning to get off in stealth, maybe go as far as they'll follow you, talk icon pops up and you click them, option to bribe them to walk away in single stealth situations, the 6 seconds is for you to react, should i get off of stealth or bribe them to walk off, but if i get off of stealth, my cover from an enemy faction is open, options into plot
Lawh  [author] 12 Mar, 2024 @ 6:31am 
Thanks for the heads up. It might have something to do with how building privacy works, but there could be something I can do about it. I'll try to have a look at it at some point when I get a proper chance.
Sanitation Technician 12 Mar, 2024 @ 2:25am 
Did a little more testing. Seems as soon as you leave the building they attack. Not the case for all stores and buildings I tried. Sometimes they do attack while inside.
Sanitation Technician 12 Mar, 2024 @ 1:46am 
In squid aggroing the guards by sneaking causes the dialogue and them to become red, but they dont attack.
Lawh  [author] 7 Mar, 2024 @ 7:13am 
I think the reason I left it like that was because I would imagine in the world of Kenshi the guards would instantly be alarmed at someone sneaking around in their town. Outside of it they give you a warning.
Bimbo Advocate 6 Mar, 2024 @ 8:31pm 
tracking this. I would download, but arresting on sight upon sneak is too hard, maybe if they yell commands at you to stop and then arrest you after a while would be good, like how the shopkeepers become hostile when you stay in the store when they close
Lawh  [author] 20 Feb, 2024 @ 5:08am 
You're welcome!
Thorik 20 Feb, 2024 @ 12:50am 
Thank you! Such a pity that it does not rank higher in searching.
Lawh  [author] 9 Dec, 2023 @ 5:24pm 
Hey! Yeah definitely, put it in there. I forgot to come back to this mod and polish it out after some tests, so feel free to make any changes necessary.
noob abominable 9 Dec, 2023 @ 1:51pm 
Hi i checked out the mod and it is amazing. Do I have your permission to merge it into a total overhaul mod I'm making? There seems to be some things to fix and I also need to remove the game start that comes with the mod, so I can't just put it in the collection. Thanks in advance; will be citing you and linking your work anyways.
Roulce 23 Aug, 2023 @ 3:19pm 
Hgnnn this is what I've been LOOKING FOR
Lawh  [author] 20 Aug, 2023 @ 2:42am 
It is, but you will get a warning outside of town. I also added this mechanic to some squads that roam around the map, but it hasn't been fully implemented yet since I have been doing other stuff. But I will try to improve on it when I can now that I remember it.
Sullis 19 Aug, 2023 @ 11:55pm 
Is sneaking sus outside of towns?
AfghanTrainingKit 10 Jun, 2023 @ 4:52am 
One of the best mods. Should have been present in original game
:steamthumbsup:
Lawh  [author] 4 Apr, 2023 @ 2:30am 
I think people didn't like getting arrested or attacked when accidentally going into a town sneaking, or then being let off with a warning every time they got caught, making the system sort of useless. I personally got used to it after a few minutes of playing and it's now a mechanic I really like.

I think I tried to add a system where if you sneak around any people anywhere they will get angry, but I need to improve on that. I will get on it now if I can.
__ 4 Apr, 2023 @ 1:50am 
This makes the world feel much more hostile. Should have been in vanilla.
Lawh  [author] 9 Feb, 2023 @ 7:00am 
Alright, so.

If you're inside town walls, and you're sneaking around, you will most likely get arrested. Exceptions are, if the guard is dumb, or, if you stop sneaking and the guard is the leader of the guards and has not seen you sneak around in a long while.

If you're outside the town walls and sneaking around, you will get a warning if you stop.If you do not stop, you will get arrested. If you get caught soon again, you will get arrested.
Daevinski 9 Feb, 2023 @ 4:18am 
Right now with this mod the Guards straight up arrest you for sneaking. Would be possible to make then warn you first? I know UWE has a patch that does that, so maybe you can use it as an reference to implement something similar here?