I moved some mods around and toggled some off. Looks like the Weighted Shot deployed properly. So there is a conflict somewhere, it's just a matter of what's causing it.

I've been trying to think on it, and maybe it the "Removed Leadbelcher ammo, range, and reload speed from Stolen Black Powder" might have something to do with it? Cause the tech does only display that the Ironblaster is affected by it.

Well I'm having problems with the Leadbelcher mortar ammo research again. It isn't deploying and updating the unit with the new ammo type. I had it working last time I played, but I don't know what I did different. Only other mods I have that really touch Ogres are Singe's units and Decky's Tech Tree, but neither should really mess with the Ogre-Haul implementations. I also tried changing up the load order, but no luck with that.

is it normal for camp bosses lvl up to 5 at turn 4?

I'm having a little problem where the AI will get fricken loads of camps and huddle them all up together making them nearly impossible to crack open.

Thank you for the update, Dose! Your dedication is very much appreciated. I hope the IRL stuff gets better for you

Also...are camps still supposed to be able to raid? The camp bosses still have skill lines that say "raiding" but they can't...raid...they only have the - stance or the "encamp" stance, nothing else. Is that correct or am I missing something?

I really like this! Although...I'm having some skill tree conflicts I think, I can't get the new skills for the camp bosses to display properly. I do use chop shops mods for additional skills and also might of the maw mod so, wondering if load order would help or I guess I'd need a submod

bless

looked into it and the weirdness of the Hunter sitting on the stonehorn in campaign map is vanilla, but I hopefully fixed him being clipped into the ground in-battle.

correction hunter model when using stonehorn mount is messed up sorry for wrong info

bless

Thanks man

Alright, I HOPE I've fixed several issues that have been plaguing people and toned down a few things in balance:

Re-added dynamic meat levels, adjusting the ranges and buffs provided by meat
Removed Leadbelcher ammo, range, and reload speed from Stolen Black Powder
Removed Maneater and Irongut charge bonus from Ridin' Stick
Added Dismember, Massacre, and Meat Feast to the Whetstones, Tribal Tribute, and Finder's Fee techs respectively
Nerfed some ancillaries (Skull Plucker, Siegebreaker, Mastodon Armour, Bullgut) to adjust for new ancillary changes
Sceptre of Titans economy buffs reduced to vanilla but now grants 10% additional WS for extra krumping
Adjusted skills so camp tyrants should only get the Camp Boss trait (which is what reduces their movement innately)
HOPEFULLY fixed the weirdness of agent caps while off-the-map
HOPEFULLY prevented the AI from recruiting Camp Bosses normally and spamming the map with them

Sorry, real life has been rough. Update coming this weekend. To address concerns:

Will look into Ogre camp movement, but it's supposed to be fairly lethargic at low levels.
Will be reintroducing dynamic meat levels. Hopefully won't break.
Have not been able to replicate Leadbelcher tech issue.
Have to check on Hunter model, but there shouldn't be any conflicts?
No idea about multiplayer sync.
Haven't been able to replicate lords counting against camp count yet. Will check.
Cannot replicate growth point requirement.
Will look into camp boss traits, faulty recruitment, and confederation.
Will look into AI spamming camps.

Hey @Dose, Definitely need an update. Still prefer your mod to CA's in a lot of ways. Hopefully it works well with SCM's new Ogre mod (which is kinda busted atm). Also is it some bug in my game, but ogre camps can have some really insane movement ranges?

The buffs/debuffs for meat levels aren't changing at all. Needs an update

Been a minute since I've played but it looks like the Leadbelcher tech for Weighted Shot isn't deploying properly again.

hunter model is messed up when using this mod

The amount of puns in this is insane, congrats.

Is this stable in Multiplayer? Is it known to cause Desyncs?

mod is borked, regular lords count against your camp count

Great mod overall! Not the first time a mod fixes/makes a faction better than the devs updates themselves. Thought i gotta agree this makes camps somewhat easier to build, maybe nerfing their build rate a bit and giving the well-fed ogres a reduced upkeep (or even hp regen). Besides this, amazing job saving us nomadic ogre fans!

May be me or my mods, but my camps need growth surplus with that mod, and they don't have growth surplus making it impossible to build in them ^^'

Im having the same issue without confederation. Sometimes camp bosses get regular traits when deployed, allowing them to move at 100% movement.
Havent found a fix for it. Maybe you could look into this?

There seems to be some unintended interactions with this mod and Recruit Defeated Legendary Lords. When you confederate a defeated faction, the camps join you too. They're destroyed of course, but when you try and deploy more camps from a lord, you can't. For me it says I'm 9/3 camps, even though I only have one on the map. You can, however, recruit those camp bosses as you would any other lord. This does let you make more camps, only problem being that the camp I made this way had 100% movement, like a regular lord. Kinda broken, imo.

@nuorigubbe i do that makes sense then

I have a mod request, I used to use this mod

https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2864787039&searchtext=demonic

which removes demons crumbling but it hasn't been updated in ages. Is there any chance you could create your own version of this please? I want to play demon's again but I get no enjoyment out of it unfortunately due to my armies just disintegrating

Is this SFO compatible?

Leadbelchers don't seem to have the weighted shot mode of fire. Intentional or a bug?

@karcen, do you have Recruit Defeated Legendary Lords on? I'm pretty sure it recruits Camp Bosses from defeated factions.

Weird bug I ran into It said I had 8 out of 2 camps but I only had 1

Leadbelchers don't seem to want to attack walls with either of their attack modes.

@Denvo scar yes, I have had this issue haha. Just an entire wave of Ogre amies taking up an entire region. It is a bug for sure. But also a test xD.

Has anyone else had an issue with the ai spamming like no joke something like 50-100 camps down. was playing as Suneater and Goldtooth declared war oh me and I am like that is fine till I see his crazy numbers of camps and I was like wtf is going on?

Cant see it being any other mod unless it has something to do with the chaos orges one

To me the biggest flaw in the Ogre Kingdoms mechanics is not being able to transfer units in and out of camps and sadly this mod does not address that.

Alright, this new update should automatically convert "old" camps, such as the starting ones, into the new shiny moving camps.

I'm regrettably aware of the lack of pack-up option on these camps. I'm pretty sure you can manually disband it and move it but that'll get rid of your units, so... Not great. I've requested help regarding this but gotten none yet.

Also please share if the camp limit and repair bugs persist, and under what conditions. I'll definitely look into them. Thank you!

There is no option to pack up the camp

Having the same issue moving camps. If I order a camp to pack up, I can't redploy it after the turn limit is up due to being at the max number of camps.

Cant make new camps as im always on the limit (3/3), even though i have only 1 camp. Increasing the limit only makes it go to 4/4. If a camp building gets damaged, it cant be repaired due to "lack of meat", depite having 3000.

This mod is legendary! I've been using this mod for ages but the movable camps with Goldfag's play style actually feels like a proper mobile mercenary horde finally

Well I'll admit I have no idea if it's the Ogre-Haul or Decky's tech mod that does it, but unlocking the tech that says it gives the mortar style fire to Leadbelchers doesn't actually appear to work. I still only have the standard shot and scatter shot, no weighted shot.

@ADP Skrag's starting camp does not move. Factions which start with a camp, the camp does not move.
Also with the Legendary Lords addon which adds defeated factions to your roster, the camps from the faction get added to your pool and jack up the Camp Limit numbers and cannot be summoned. Ex. My camp numbers are 7/4, where it says apparrently 4 camps are up and running when there is only 1 camp active. 4 Camp Tyrants can be summoned but cant be summoned because camp limit is exceeded.

How to fix Camp Bosses not getting traits? Is that an impossible fix? just hardwired to not be possible?

Ah, I get it now. Fixed oddities like waiting a turn to even move a new camp into stance at all.

I may be misunderstanding this latest update. The food transfer is fixed, but starting camps still are unable to become movers, and I still was able to switch between raid and encamp. Was there stance issues with your camps? I had noticed nothing...

Oooohh. beautiful ! thank you so much for the update.

Thank's for update ADP

You need to delete the frist camp and creat a new camp Handsome Devil

Still cant transfer meat to starting camps...