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RimWorld

Better Beggars (Continued)
62 Comments
Leozingameplays 5 Jul @ 11:58pm 
That is sad... I'm a developer but working with code all week make me kinda too lazy to look into the code of the game and see what can be done lol. Nice mod anyways
Mlie  [author] 5 Jul @ 10:31pm 
@Leozingameplays I dont think so, it like most quests are tied to your colony wealth
Leozingameplays 5 Jul @ 3:10pm 
There is a way to add a config where I can set a absolute range per pawn for the beggars money asks? Cause I find rather odd that as the game progresses you get some guys asking for more than 1k and in early games they can be as low as 30... I don't think any desperate wanderer beggar should be asking for 1 coin, nor for 3k lol
Mlie  [author] 1 May @ 3:14am 
@Leutian Kane Ive had them stay as guests after a visit at least
Leutian Kane 1 May @ 2:02am 
yes but what im getting at is , if the beggars join as VISITORS they arent counted in hospitality as guests so you cant recruit them thru that, thats why i suggested that.Hospitality doesnt touch "vanilla" visitors.
Mlie  [author] 1 May @ 1:31am 
@Leutian Kane Hospitality already has a mechanic to recruit guests based on how they are treated
Leutian Kane 1 May @ 12:36am 
if nothing else add this as an option if using hospitality mods.
Leutian Kane 1 May @ 12:35am 
so with the join for a few days and leave, might want to add a chance to recruit them permanently as well if theyre treated well enough during the stay.
Mlie  [author] 29 Apr @ 1:31pm 
@Proxy Should be fixed now, the base game had changed the translation string
Proxy 28 Apr @ 5:02pm 
When I gave them the items it said "messagebeggarsleavingwithItems" In corrupted text
Brumes Wolf 19 Apr @ 1:51pm 
I wasn't aware either until I stumbled across it on the wiki a few days ago.
I agree 700 is quite low and would quite quickly become pointless, but immersion wise I guess it makes sense beggars wouldn't simple ask for 10s of thousands of silver worth or stuff just because your colony is wealthy.
Amazing that you could add something so quick, thanks!
Mlie  [author] 19 Apr @ 11:26am 
@Brumes Wolf Added an option for that now
Mlie  [author] 19 Apr @ 10:00am 
@Brumes Wolf Wasnt aware that they had added that cap. I could probably add a setting for the max value, but 700 seems like making it a pointless quest for a colony of 200k wealth tbh.
Brumes Wolf 19 Apr @ 9:12am 
Unless I am misunderstanding the way the wealth math works
Brumes Wolf 19 Apr @ 9:09am 
For a 200,000 wealth colony you'd have to set it to a factor of 0.0035 to equal the vanilla 700 silver value cap, the lowest this mod allows is 10%, which would be ~28.5x more than vanilla
Mlie  [author] 19 Apr @ 8:20am 
@Brumes Wolf Isnt the % of colony wealth-option already enough to control that?
Brumes Wolf 19 Apr @ 7:59am 
Important info for anyone still using this or thinking about using it, Vanilla beggar were changed to request up to a max of 700 silver worth of stuff, this means that using this mod will pretty much always make the beggars ask for *more* stuff than vanilla, which is pretty much the opposite of what it was supposed to do originally.

Mlie if you could add a setting or something to enable this max request limit for this mod so it can still be used for its other features that would be amazing.
AkkBar 17 Apr @ 9:26am 
Is it possible to add a chance of relationships with colonists for the spawned beggars? I've never seen beggars with relationships, wonder if that can be modded in.
Ghost of Draupnir 22 Oct, 2024 @ 8:01pm 
Motherfuckers are still asking for 19 Luciferum from my neanderthal tribals.
Teckie 25 Sep, 2024 @ 9:34pm 
Would be cool if instead of giving them stuff we would have the option to take them in/directly help free their inslaved friends. (Dependant on what they asks the stuff for.)
ephemeraltoast 18 Sep, 2024 @ 12:40pm 
I am also getting the "MessageBeggarsLeavingWithItems".

Otherwise, mod seems to work perfectly, thank you for maintaining it.
Evelyn 11 Aug, 2024 @ 9:14am 
Same bug with @kyrambox
kyrambox 10 Jul, 2024 @ 7:01am 
After finishing the quest, a message appeares "MessageBeggarsLeavingWithItems". It seems that some strings are underfined...
Mlie  [author] 24 May, 2024 @ 11:31pm 
@小蓝 Please see the Reporting Issues section described above
小蓝 24 May, 2024 @ 7:34pm 
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小蓝 24 May, 2024 @ 7:34pm 
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小蓝 24 May, 2024 @ 7:34pm 
Config error in GiveQuest_Beggars_Chased: quest is run from both incident and random quest.
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小蓝 24 May, 2024 @ 7:33pm 
When I started the game, there was a red letter, I don't know why, can you help me look at it
Giant Enemy Crab 15 May, 2024 @ 1:04am 
Yeah what's weird is that even the ancient dangers don't have the drug, at least not as loot. I didn't check/test with empty caskets though, so maybe that's where it's coming from?
Slash 14 May, 2024 @ 10:36am 
@Vartarhoz I saw a story about a guy who basically lost his colony breaking into an ancient danger to get luciferium that beggars wanted on the "Less Demanding Beggars" discussion thread, so it's not only you apparently.
Giant Enemy Crab 3 May, 2024 @ 3:07pm 
I'm noticing that as of 1.5 during the early part of the game, beggars will ask me for 1x drug that I don't have in any capacity. Not sure if that's vanilla behavior/bug or if it's because of this mod, but figured I'd report it here.
Mlie  [author] 20 Apr, 2024 @ 5:14am 
@femoral2 No, it just modifies the events
femoral2 20 Apr, 2024 @ 4:20am 
With this mod, the beggars events are more frequent?
Slikkelas 21 Mar, 2024 @ 5:17pm 
Hey Mlie.
I know you are busy, but the incident called "chased" causes an error because the game says it already exists. I tried delete it from the .xml and error stopped.
So maybe you wanna update and remove that so it dosn't cause errors for people. Just wanted to let you know :)
Vartarhoz 16 Mar, 2024 @ 8:39am 
Is it only me or beggars wants thing from Ancients Dangers that I don't see on map (fogged)?
Anthony079 9 Mar, 2024 @ 12:17am 
as a hoarding enjoyer, +1 for an option with less/no scaling
Thundercraft 9 Feb, 2024 @ 7:22pm 
I have to agree with several of the comments here.

Beggar events would stay relevant for longer if the amount did NOT scale as a percent of the colony's wealth because that gets ridiculous for large colonies. It should either be a fixed amount or have some sort of limit.

And, as suggested, it would be awesome if refugees (such as from the new "Beggars who are being chased by raiders" event) sometimes ask to join our colony instead of leaving, especially as it fits with other vanilla behavior.
mountainofcheezo 1 Dec, 2023 @ 12:02pm 
Either diminished scaling, or even just a max amount request - e.g., no more than 25 herbal medicine or something.
Dirmagnos 20 Sep, 2023 @ 3:10pm 
Would be nice to have an option for diminishing scaling. Aka wealthier colony gets, less they ask in proportion.
d_valroth 1 Aug, 2023 @ 3:26am 
Yeah, the enless scaling is silly. I get that Tynan wanted the events to remain relevant, but it gets absurd what they are asking for.
Noble116 25 Jul, 2023 @ 9:34am 
this is a much needed fix, its honestly ridiculous how theyll show up asking for 100 meds to supposedly "save an injured companion" like no, you can have all my shit
Fishbone 24 Jul, 2023 @ 5:36pm 
Would be great if beggars could sometimes ask to become a colonist, the way refugees sometimes ask to stay permanently
Tam 24 Jul, 2023 @ 2:39pm 
In vanilla only refugees send delayed rewards, beggars do not.
NaNoServers 24 Jul, 2023 @ 12:57pm 
Yea they do sometimes
sam1373 24 Jul, 2023 @ 12:27pm 
Don't beggars in vanilla already send delayed rewards?
Tam 24 Jul, 2023 @ 9:04am 
Dude you are life saviour thank you so much for this mod!
Nishe 24 Jul, 2023 @ 4:57am 
Just. As. Planned.
Iznet 24 Jul, 2023 @ 1:06am 
@AuntyDonna if they have more stuff, then you have more stuff to raid later
Nishe 24 Jul, 2023 @ 12:39am 
@Virstag Then there's me, with a colony full of supremacist raider cannibals and I'm there giving them what they ask for anyway.
jeffg10-TheDanceMaster 24 Jul, 2023 @ 12:27am 
It was foretold in the stars on the first day before the beginning that Mlie would arrive.