Lol Okay yeah the hydrogen is definitely better. The advantage of the flat thrusters is they way somewhere near a 3rd the weight but also produce a 1/3 less the thrust compared to the standard atmo thruster, while also requiring significantly less resources.

though I agree, they are useful when used properly :D

um, actually those things friggin suck compared to the older ones, it took 36 of them to equal 80% of the 16 H2 thrusters that you put there

That works :) I didn't think to add the flat thrusters. I think that's pretty clever of you

well, I added my own, but hey, your setup can act as a backup if the power supply gets too low so I don't go splat :D (also your method looks better lol)

Yeah I was trying to over come a problem with the first one. You need enough down facing thrusters so you don't splat on the ground. But I didn't want to add so many that is a brick of thrusters. I've experimented with tilt rotor aircraft so I tried using tilting thrusters to utilize the left and right thrusters so I could use less of them. Seems to work so far.

I did not know that, that is actually ingenious :D

And they're not meant to tilt down fully. They're meant to tilt at a 45 degree angle to control the ship while in atmo flight so you don't slide sideways suddenly.

Use the thruster options on the hot bar to overide the thrusters while they're in the tilt position. Using the overide you can manually control the accent and decent speed that way.

hey, fair's fair, question on the tilt thrusters, are they supposed to do something while in the angled position and locked? cause they don't seem to wanna do much if anything when in atmo mode (looks like they were meant to tilt down fully, but they don't)

Feel free to modify to your hearts content. But yeah I'm planning on leaving it without mods.

hmm, if you've added a ton of gyro's that barely do anything, then there's modification #1: modded gyro's (to reduce the PCU flat and gain more power from them), but I'm NOT expecting you do add that, or the shields, I'm doing that myself too :D Also there was a note on the screen, but another one that had nothing on it (actually most of em have nothing on it, but I couldn't tell if that was intended or broken lol)

If I need to I can add more instructions to the panels at the helm. I'd have to wait until I'm off work though.

Glad you like it. It's got an appropriate amount of gyros (still wishing Keen would give us a larger gyro with much better power. Gyros eat up SO much PCU and do very little) but I've found if you're turning kind of slow, yap the q or e key to do a little tilting and the turn rate increases (don't know why. It just does). To change the thruster tilt position it's set up with a 1 key push when at the helm on page one of the controls. I think it's button 1 option. Then just make sure the hinges are on (I think it's option 3 or 4) and they're auto move to the right place. Lock the hinges in place again with the same key to make sure they work properly. I think I put a note that lights up on an LCD panel for that?

so, post looking at it notes: I LOVE the new ground vehicle bay, looks massive enough to transport every vehicle I'd ever need. Love the new bridge design, looks sleek, yet informative and useful, and easy direct access, love the flat surface (its like you knew I would put shields on this baby lol), love the massive space in it, absolute perfection, the space/atmo hangar modes don't empty the ship's O2 supply this time around, and O2 production is self sufficient, the hangar bay is friggin massive, if that doesn't fit my whole fleet I don't know what will (that doesn't delete my FPS that is, anyone can make a lag happy box with doors on it), and I feel bad for whoever tries to fight me in this thing, I WILL beat everybody into submission, cruisers got nothing on the IEC now :D. 1 complaint: This thing turns and tilts way to slow, even in 0G, and one question: How do I change positions for the hinge thrusters?

one thing I did wanna ask? how did you get the PCU down by almost 100k, while also making this ship so much better?

the BnR is the nanite build and repair, yes :D also, subgrids are 0 problem (how I love plugin loader/creative tools lol) also the first version had 0 H2O2 generators, and even when added in, the conveyoring system wasn't exactly the best, and it was a very heavy fuel user, but I'm nearing my HQ to pop this baby in right now, so I'll let ya know :D

So you know there are subgrids. You'll build the bulk of it using a bluepring, but you'll not be able to use the advanced thruster system for entering and exiting planet atmo without building the subgrids. I'm not familiar with BnR. Is that the Nanite build and repair? I believe it has at least 8 o2 generators? If its not enough I can add more since I left room for some expansion. And this one is also more fuel efficient than the previous one too so you shouldn't have to sweat as much landing.

so, looking off the bat at specs here its obvious you took the notes I made with the first version to heart, the PCU is nearly 100K less than the prior version, while being WAY better armed, I'll look upon spawning it in (cause I'm NOT waiting for this to build, even with BnR systems), but it appears you streamlined the conveyor systems as well, did you find a way to upgrade its H2O2 production?

Lol Well have fun happiest person lol

also this doesn't mean the Mk I is gonna be tossed aside, I put too much work into that baby, but this will absolutely be replacing it as my command ship :D

I am the happiest person alive now :D